Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:60361) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SdU4G-00068D-Ov; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:40 -0700 Received: by wibhr4 with SMTP id hr4sf1235289wib.16 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zMNtI5e2DcPzaVTDPyTzrShIELUd4sTr0Nr3GpNOOlY=; b=sXpqIf+h04v1xL6udDEpNdDtRwRNsxhXydrAVTzKU/ZdDqNID//Q5iC8A7hwZqJvWH B0YwvxvuQnFsbt2FzLIpGhaZQSrzMJfeu/fE0g7VjA9lUv+53HysVdiRiupiTQd1ouA7 +fbVeH/OHC80cGaBAiJBEaKpk6geKJjNsGJGQ= Received: by 10.204.152.220 with SMTP id h28mr828708bkw.26.1339280608031; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls3922742bks.1.gmail; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.145 with SMTP id v17mr2506612bku.7.1339280606140; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.145 with SMTP id v17mr2506611bku.7.1339280606117; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hy18si1401945bkc.2.2012.06.09.15.23.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.46; Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so2586423lah.33 for ; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.166 with SMTP id q6mr1249366lbz.6.1339280605587; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206061549.33937.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <49fb69ac-128f-4187-ad45-3f6e66155ae7@googlegroups.com> <201206061549.33937.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 16:23:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Bilingual version of Terry the Tiger From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401faedc0297a04c21190e4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0401faedc0297a04c21190e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have a typesetting error on page 5: tu'a The bridi implied by. tu=92a can be translated as =93some abstraction associated with...=94, or more colloquially, =93some stuff about...=94. tu=92a is easily the most popular way of dealing with abstractions you wish weren=92t there in Lojban; Lojban sentences using it come out fairly similar to the natural language sentences without abstractions that we=92re used to seeing. So the usual Lojban for =93Jyoti is interesting=94 = is *tu=92a la djiotis. cinri* "*tu=92a la djiotis. cinri*" should be on the same line as the rest of the sentence it is a part of. This would have the additional benefit of removing the one line 7th page. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 04 June 2012 21:03:10 =C1lvaro Vallejo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've posted a bilingual version of Terry the Tiger visits the big city > (la > > teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu) with explained > > vocabulary in the Lojban.org website, Lojbanic texts section: > > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=3D887&= down > >load=3Dy . > > xirmrxipotigre: you may want to mention that "hippotigris" also means > "tiger > horse", in the opposite order. "Hippos" is Greek, not Latin (which > is "equus"). > > cicricfoi: s/cicle/cilce/ > > teltcidu: "tel" is the rafsi of "stela", not "te". Should be "tertcidu". > > On Wednesday 06 June 2012 14:53:57 Remo Dentato wrote: > > I find it great! I really think we need more material like this. > > +1 > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d0401faedc0297a04c21190e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have a typesetting error on page 5:

tu'a
The bridi implie= d by. tu=92a can be translated as =93some abstraction associated with...=94= , or more colloquially, =93some
stuff about...=94. tu=92a is easily the= most popular way of dealing with abstractions you wish weren=92t there in = Lojban;
Lojban sentences using it come out fairly similar to the natural language s= entences without abstractions that
we=92re used to seeing. So the usual= Lojban for =93Jyoti is interesting=94 is
tu=92a la djiotis. cinri

"tu=92a la djiotis. cinri" should be on the same line = as the rest of the sentence it is a part of. This would have the additional= benefit of removing the one line 7th page.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>= wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2012 21:03:10 =C1lvaro Vallejo wrote: > Hi,
>
> I've posted a bilingual version of Terry the Tiger visits the big = city (la
> teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu) with explai= ned
> vocabulary in the Lojban.org website, Lojbanic texts section:
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-d= ownload_wiki_attachment.php?attId=3D887&down
>load=3Dy .

xirmrxipotigre: you may want to mention that "hippotigris" = also means "tiger
horse", in the opposite order. "Hippos" is Greek, not Latin = (which
is "equus").

cicricfoi: s/cicle/cilce/

teltcidu: "tel" is the rafsi of "stela", not "te&q= uot;. Should be "tertcidu".

On Wednesday 06 June 2012 14:53:57 Remo Dentato wrote:
> I find it great! I really think we need more material like this.

+1

Pierre
--
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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