Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:59022) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfPvM-00076u-S5; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:25 -0700 Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14sf2207987vcb.16 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Fr7tnzl3gRpfw7dxVCARrxXk2tFjRAbWELrus1YPY3g=; b=G0f9BGSSqY2SBS9fg+Jx3v09a2ROs/+RGU7XGFMfBPZCVEJlGjOEWvvZA0jHypDZj6 Tug8qhz8huzK1hRsnfaVxwWFSrSxX52h1Iz5t/GXoGAjVVG9yU61g44BA8DxtHX+BASb BEL0u4CdhlE6C7/ZbnBq4lWu4K5XyKURDR1ro= Received: by 10.52.179.98 with SMTP id df2mr352553vdc.3.1339741338140; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.155.19 with SMTP id q19ls640376vcw.6.gmail; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.34.9 with SMTP id v9mr348597vdi.9.1339741337611; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:22:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <173a7e7d-d99c-4a04-9d58-13f3bd639fd9@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/536.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/19.0.1084.56 Safari/536.5,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <6e2a3812-eb9e-4f0c-af39-e8c8f743f0d8@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Bridi as Sumti From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / You're very right. On 15 Cze, 07:51, Jonathan Jones wrote: > True, but regardless, you still have to lo (or le, or la) to make it a > sumti. In your example, the nu converts the bridi into an event, and the lo > converts the event into a sumti. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM, ianek wrote: > > It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want a sumti with > > filled other places, do as aionys says. If you want an abstraction (to > > refer to an event, fact, property etc.) you have to use some > > abstractor, like {lo nu ko'a broda ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u [kei]} to refer > > to an event described by the bridi. > > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > > On 15 Cze, 00:32, Jaiden Bell wrote: > > > Can anyone help me understand how to turn a bridi into a sumti? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.