Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:60998) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfXrl-0002xS-Cs; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:15 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf2592891ggk.16 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Kjxd6C02+3NBfp+D7Qn5inw/DBSaYRbx2SWcOo8x3SE=; b=VLTSoLBM6rZJ+LkfYLOIBIwGETfGT5TOHG0eXtjkenMy31DV+EYmH0Jj4vwX79VYLW 3s22eNPX70S41YrN24hzLqMVpET6LN2oYp8oOkifEAgov/p9T7TJFafRC9HcySP/97I+ /uJav5efKHdf7pWhQeaEtyGAe4Vjb6VPg7PR4= Received: by 10.52.94.147 with SMTP id dc19mr450389vdb.17.1339771864977; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.240.204 with SMTP id lb12ls787652vcb.4.gmail; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.141 with SMTP id w13mr440865vdt.18.1339771864328; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaiden Bell To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <967ee71e-9aaa-4df2-b3b5-3e7f9d504f91@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <173a7e7d-d99c-4a04-9d58-13f3bd639fd9@googlegroups.com> <3a68a48f-3e43-4450-b4a6-a3ea1077b7bc@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Bridi as Sumti MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: azuritiss@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of azuritiss@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=azuritiss@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_241_23459417.1339771863613" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_241_23459417.1339771863613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So then what is the purpose of be and be'o? On Friday, June 15, 2012 10:33:31 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote: > > Approximately. bei indicates that another sumti is being attached, sumti > don't typically need anything to signal being separate- the "start > indicator" - as you call it - lo is enough by itself. > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jaiden Bell wrote: > >> Okay thanks, I think that that makes some sense. But to be clear: the >> words be and be'o act as start and end indicators (sort of) and bei >> separates each sumti, correct? >> >> >> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:11:40 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote: >>> >>> bridi: broda ko'a ko'e ko'i ko'o >>> >>> sumti: lo broda be ko'a bei ko'e bei ko'i bei ko'o be'o >>> >>> You only need bei and be'o if you're wanting the bridi to have the >>> places after x2 filled, you only need be if you want the x2 filled, lo >>> steals the x1 place. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jaiden Bell wrote: >>> >>>> Can anyone help me understand how to turn a bridi into a sumti? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>>> msg/lojban-beginners/-/**voSaBccG3fkJ >>>> . >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.** >>>> com . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/lojban-beginners?hl=en >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/G7G3irIomy8J. >> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/27JHLHztzYEJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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On Friday, June 15, 2012= 10:33:31 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
Approximately. bei indicates that another sumti is being attached, sumti= don't typically need anything to signal being separate- the "start indicat= or" - as you call it - lo is enough by itself.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jaiden Bell <azuritiss@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Okay thanks, I think that that makes some sense. But to be clear: the words= be and be'o act as start and end indicators (sort of) and bei separates ea= ch sumti, correct?


On Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:11:40 PM = UTC-4, aionys wrote:
bridi: broda ko'a ko'e ko'i ko'o

sumti: lo broda be ko'a bei ko'e be= i ko'i bei ko'o be'o

You only need bei and be'o if you're wanting th= e bridi to have the places after x2 filled, you only need be if you want th= e x2 filled, lo steals the x1 place.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jaiden Bell= <azuritiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone help me understand how to turn a bridi into a sumti?

Thanks in advance.

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