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Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:14:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] my first translation From: Devin Prater To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Oh, I am not discouraged. I just need to learn a bit more about the language and how it works more, and practice thinking more logically, I'm thinking about the "ship" thing now, I can't believe I called a starship a boat. I think translating things like this is a sort of creativity, because breaking things down from English words to what they truly are takes much creativeness, there doesn't seem to be many word-to-word translations from English to Lojban, well not many in this case anyways. Thanks for your help and guidance. On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Certainly. I'll try to remember to do so. > > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi > mu'o mi'e.aionys. > On Jun 23, 2012 10:27 PM, ".arpis." wrote: > >> ki'e sai .aionys. >> >> I found that extremely informative and would appreciate any similar >> description for future translations you do that you are willing to >> provide. >> .i mi mutce se jungau gi'e ba da'i ckire tu'a lo simsa velski be lo nu >> ba xe fanva ku ku poi do nalpro fi lo nu sabji >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > That's actually the reason behind me going through my thought process, >> > rather than merely submitting my translation. This is not the first >> > translation project I've attempted, nor likely the last, so I have some >> > experience in hte hidden difficulties that lie within. >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Devin Prater >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Wow. You've given me some insight on the translation process, that I >> >> shouldn't translate just the words, but the true meaning, which is a >> >> little tricky sometimes, like with lower your shields. I think I >> >> should learn more Lojban before tackling things like this, I thought >> >> this would be quite simple. >> >> >> >> On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >> > I made a rather annoying mistake. I completely forgot to separate >> >> > the >> >> > two >> >> > sentences. There needs to be an {.i} in there. >> >> > >> >> > {mi'a selcme zo.borg. *.i* ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nencalku kei >> >> > gi'e >> >> > radydu'a lo do keslo'i} >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> > >> >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> >> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > "Lojban Beginners" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> >> lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> > >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Lojban Beginners" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .arpis. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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