Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:53755) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SkalH-0002eg-51; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:28 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf2234202eaa.16 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RlkAAXkrsgeAbdr/JxRQlR4i2x9UGrtbysE4RRt9NeQ=; b=Hc0hAgxYssW5YpcKo0Bhh9k8LR1bJ/iKBrYSNKyQ7H9ISmHcP7FnM/9zEMO86JDDI5 u02FfAn9Ao9aOcuYY+mXnVe/d9dX1I1cyCi9wKGjU3AVFCINF5jroZvC/bAk5R70gVxE DFtOZBGNNvqLx64u1bAb2pC+o9QybO1HVE9Ng= Received: by 10.204.154.141 with SMTP id o13mr47087bkw.25.1340974635187; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.154.21 with SMTP id m21ls3684182bkw.2.gmail; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.122.65 with SMTP id gf1mr244603bkc.2.1340974633930; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.122.65 with SMTP id gf1mr244602bkc.2.1340974633900; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iv15si2055557bkc.0.2012.06.29.05.57.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id ji2so2945702bkc.19 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.101 with SMTP id tb5mr1915318lab.0.1340974633502; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:57:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201206281700.03463.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:57:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Visual mem for pinxe on Memrise. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2348b3aec67804c39bfc2b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f2348b3aec67804c39bfc2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmm. Well then, I must have misunderstood him then, and now I don't understand the reason for his insistence in the use of simxu for le lisxra cu xe fanva fo zo'oi.Ceqli. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Umm... well, actually, yes, according to Jorge. What he was saying is > that they are simxu only in the sense of they are simxu be lo nu kansa. In > other words, the one is mutually (simxu) with (kansa) the other in their > drinking. And that he agrees that simxu be lo nu pinxe means they are > drinking each other. But that's quite broad. It's hard to imagine any > kansa that's not simxu lo nu kansa > > --gejyspa > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> Ah, well, not according to Jorge. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Michael Turniansky < >> mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Just tired. Drove back four hours from a nine-hour wedding that >>> lasted until 3:30 in the morning. I meant to say, "Sorry, Jonathon, PIERRE >>> is correct..." (and of course sinxa -> simxu >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday 28 June 2012 15:05:17 Michael Turniansky wrote: >>>> > Sorry, Jonathon is correct. kansa means for more than one agent to >>>> > participate in an act. sinxa is an act that is done by each member >>>> of the >>>> > group to another member of the group. >>>> >>>> Are you contradicting yourself, or just tired? >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e89a8f2348b3aec67804c39bfc2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm. Well then, I must have misunderstood him then, and now I don't und= erstand the reason for his insistence in the use of simxu for le lisxra = cu xe fanva fo zo'oi.Ceqli.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Michael Tur= niansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 Umm... well, actually, yes, according to Jorge. =A0Wha= t he was saying is that they are simxu only in the sense of they are simxu = be lo nu kansa. =A0In other words, the one is mutually (simxu) with (kansa)= the other in their drinking. =A0And that he agrees that simxu be lo nu pin= xe means they are drinking each other. =A0But that's quite broad. =A0It= 's hard to imagine any kansa that's not simxu lo nu kansa

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Fri, J= un 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> w= rote:
Ah, well, not according to Jorge.
<= br>
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Michael = Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 Just tired. =A0Drove ba= ck four hours from a nine-hour wedding that lasted until 3:30 in the mornin= g. =A0I meant to say, "Sorry, Jonathon, PIERRE is correct..." (an= d of course sinxa -> simxu


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Thursday 28 June 2012 15:05:17 Michael Turniansky wrote:
> =A0 =A0Sorry, Jonathon is correct. =A0kansa means for more than one ag= ent to
> participate in an act. =A0sinxa is an act that is done by each member = of the
> group to another member of the group.

Are you contradicting yourself, or just tired?

Pierre

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