Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:41794) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SnblA-00085g-VT; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:47 -0700 Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14sf11954378vcb.16 for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RYZagX8RJaXj6gEqSDcpmG0bk5mi0JYKmU5Zp1xxMU0=; b=Lzts/yXQyYixZ5CsvQnpljRdQaJGnIGe67guCrfMXFeY7dWdcEGJ9oYB3rBUMceChf RsD/2j0TiP7fJwRGgG9wj1a3VP/XWwtnMcXs5q2NHVm/SwAKMlJGnOaelwSdK+/bqmFa U+VyiO+OgahhlpfMsVvBYehNK5N/hPTNTsRC8= Received: by 10.52.21.79 with SMTP id t15mr2100026vde.16.1341693457148; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.119.137 with SMTP id z9ls5717137vcq.2.gmail; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.89.129 with SMTP id bo1mr27668233vdb.0.1341693455985; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.89.129 with SMTP id bo1mr27668232vdb.0.1341693455974; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f42.google.com (mail-vb0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dy2si3276263vdb.1.2012.07.07.13.37.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.42; Received: by vbbfs19 with SMTP id fs19so7759662vbb.29 for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.90.233 with SMTP id bz9mr13914526vdb.93.1341693455688; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.193 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 13:37:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1897ed28-8a5d-4a2c-8916-8bad921c8240@googlegroups.com> <6530ad91-ce67-4926-b2e8-697ca6a39a36@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 16:37:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo'oi pomegranate se fanva fu ma To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / It might be so that taxonomists can't figure out what to call this thing or that thing, but they will eventually come to some kind of conclusion, not to mention that such disagreements probably have to do with species that're so uncommon or bizarre that we would most certainly never need to actually talk about them, unless Lojban should become the language of science, which is highly unlikely. Concerning the fact that "no one like type-3 fu'ivla," it's my opinion (and that of a handful of others on IRC) that type-3 are the ideal solution for fu'ivla. On the other hand, I personally think that type-4 zi'evla should be reserved/used primarily for lojban-based zi'evla, which in my opinion are the good alternative to cimjvo. Anyway, as for "pomegranate" itself, we had this discussion in IRC and determined grutrgranate be the best word for it. Conversationally, I think that you could presumably drop the grutr- after having said the full word once or twice. mu'o mi'e la tsani On 7 July 2012 13:07, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 6:46 AM, gleki wrote: >> >> oh my. I even adore this chaos in lojbanists' views. >> To tell you the truth I don't like lujvo and fu'ivla Type 3 at all. >> >> On Saturday, July 7, 2012 2:17:06 PM UTC+4, Lindar wrote: >>> >>> I suggest {granatu} from the linnean name "granatum". >> >> >> Your suggestion looks naturalistic but as for biological taxonomy everyone >> is right and everyone is wrong. Even biologists can't (and will never) come >> to a conclusion what to name this or that organism. >> >> I think this is the only part of Lojban where we should "let usage >> decide". >> In all the other cases Lojban must be regulated. > > > And how do you propose that the language be regulated? > > stevo >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/HZRI8YQ0P4MJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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