On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:05 = PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:35 A= M, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I wouldn't say "no relation". They're both fruit. :)
<= br>And it's not maglico to translate a name that in nearly every langua= ge is derived from it's LATIN name.

Notable = exceptions (notable in that I have some familiarity with them and bothered = to look them up on wiktionary) seem to include Hebrew and seemingly (but I = can't be sure) three Asiatic languages (Japanese, Chinese, and Korean).=

My point was that it's not malg= lico because it's not glico, regardless of whether it's mabla.
<= br>=A0

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:12 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com= > wrote:

On Monday, July 9, 2012 6:07:15 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
I got {tsiplise} by looking up the etymology of &q= uot;pomegranate", which is "seeded apple". Adding more bits = just makes the word more complicated.

It does. That's why I like it. But it's mal= glico if we copy the structure of zo'oi pomegranate
And that&= #39;s might be a drawback.
Pomegranates have no relation to apple= s.=A0

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Paul Predkiewicz &l= t;paul.pred= kiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:

I think {tsiplise} is awesome. Allthough it&= #39;s pulp really is more like
from a berry, but since on the outside it looks like an apple, one
might consider {tsijbaplise}

Or, you could even put the phoenecians into the game, "who were active=
in broadening its cultivation, partly for religious reasons." as
wikipedia puts it.

just my 2 one-hundredth subdivisions of several units of currency...

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's not a Lojban specific thing. Every language has that.
>
> For example, you can call a person attractive, pretty, beautiful, hand= some,
> sexy, cute, hot,...
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:33 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wro= te:
>>
>> It just reminds me of tatoeba where many lojbanic sentences have 2= -3
>> versions like jbobau/banjubu'o/la .lojban.
>> Flexibility and synonymy is great but sometimes we need to choose = one way
>> not to be misunderstood by others.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>>>
>>> Should? I can't answer that. Do it if you want to.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:32 PM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com= >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:10:36 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >>>>>
>>>>> Personally, being one of those people who hates fu'= ;ivla of any kind, I
>>>>> like {tsiplise}, myself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (facepalm)
>>>> I like this word too. Should I create a third version of t= his pixra?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu&= gt;
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:10:26 AM gleki wrote:<= br> >>>>>> > Type 3 fu'ivla is not unnaturalistic at a= ll. Ancient Egyptian
>>>>>> > (ju'ocu'i the
>>>>>> > eldest written language that we are aware of)=
>>>>>> > actually had such type of words.
>>>>>> > e.g.
>>>>>> > [image: nfr][image: nfr][image: nfr][image: p= r] pronounced as *nfrw
>>>>>> > *means
>>>>>> > "foundations of a house" where [ima= ge: pr] means house in order to
>>>>>> > distinguish it from other homophones pronounc= ed as *nfrw* as well.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It's like {grutrgranate} and {tricrgranat= e} in Lojban.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Egyptian writing system has nothing to do with= rafsi classifiers
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> borrowed words. A better natlang example of a type= -3 fu'ivla is
>>>>>> "weeverfish"
>>>>>> (or "weaverfish"), where "weever&qu= ot; is from Old French and "fish" is
>>>>>> native.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:11:35 AM gleki wrote:<= br> >>>>>> > Sorry to say but I have to support Lindar'= ;s {granatu} Type 4
>>>>>> > fu'ivla.
>>>>>> > Don't ask me for any logic in such decisi= on cuz I said earlier there
>>>>>> > could
>>>>>> > be no logic in this field at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could be "granatu" or "granato&q= uot; in my opinion, but I prefer both of
>>>>>> them to
>>>>>> "granate", which is the vocative, which = was lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another possibility is "rimbone" or &quo= t;rumbona", from Semitic, with "b"
>>>>>> thrown
>>>>>> in for the morphology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre
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