On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Paul Predkiewic= z <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
I see, the {cu}/{ku} of course is to prevent the lover i call bird to
become something i call a loverbird. Though, would pauses around a
cmevla make the {ku}/{cu} unneccessary? Or is {la .cipni. prami} still
something i call a loverbird?

It would still be &q= uot;something named a-bird-type-of-lover". The ku or cu is needed to s= eparate the sumti from the selbri. Without it, the two gismu combine to for= m a tanru which is then swallowed whole y la.
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jo= nathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com= > wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
> <paul.predkiewicz@gma= il.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It's not especially generic at all, although each argumen= t can refer
>> > to any entity actually called that.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, that is what i meant. I know {la} doesn't mean "the= ", but more
>> like "next-up: a name"
>> I was just trying to say that as it is the statement {la cipni cu<= br> >> prami la mlatu} leaves alot of questions open...
>> On the other hand it seems i tend to forget the following, a weddi= ng
>> ring engraved with
>> {la cipni cu ze'e prami la mlatu}
>> and another engraved with
>> {la mlatu cu ze'e prami la cipni}
>> pretty much adds a whole lot of context. so i guess even if only t= his
>> sentence fits inside the rings, it would still be selfdesprict, si= nce
>> if you knew what a wedding ring is you could easily assume that th= e
>> wearer is the person who loves the loved one.
>>
>> But when written down on the internet, it doesn't sound like m= uch.
>>
>> Oh and, if you use gismu as a name, to form a valid sentence, do y= ou
>> need to put a full stop there {la cipni. cu prami}? Or is {la cipn= i cu
>> prami} fine too? Or is it even {la .cipni. cu prami}?
>
>
> I can never accurately remember which are called cmene and which are c= alled
> cmevla, but let's assume eg. {la mlatu} are the ones called cmevla= . If I'm
> wrong, someone will correct me.
>
> Only cmene need to be surrounded by pauses. It is never wrong to put a= pause
> where one is not needed, but cmevla have no need of them at all, howev= er,
> that is why they need to be followed by ku/cu in some situations, wher= eas
> cmene never do.
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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