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No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu"

.i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu ->
[love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat
 iu     <love>
mi      I (x1 of prami)
     no'u la cipni [ge'u]       who is Bird
[cu] ze'e    forever
prami    loving
do    you (x2 of prami)
    nu'e   I-promise
    la mlatu   Cat (x2 of nu'e)

  The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anything, much
like .iu
                  --gejyspa


On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz <
paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really know about
> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to
> learn a bunch of gismu first.
> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e} would
> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}.
> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative" means exactly
> this...
>
> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me..
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky
> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
> > <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu
> >> >
> >> > melrai :P
> >> >
> >> > mu'o mi'e la tsani
> >>
> >> That is indeed very cute :3
> >> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of prami? Of
> >> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't..
> >>
> >   No.  Most people forget that "ne'u" is a COI, so it grabs the "la
> mlatu"
> >                  --gejyspa
> >
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">No, no, it DOES only &quot;touch&quot; the &quot;la mlatu&=
quot;<div><br></div><div>.i iu mi no&#39;u la cipni ze&#39;e prami do nu&#3=
9;e la mlatu=A0-&gt;</div><div>[love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I =
promise Cat<br>
=A0iu =A0 =A0 &lt;love&gt;</div><div>mi =A0 =A0 =A0I (x1 of prami)</div><di=
v>=A0 =A0 =A0no&#39;u la cipni [ge&#39;u] =A0 =A0 =A0 who is Bird</div><div=
>[cu] ze&#39;e =A0 =A0forever</div><div>prami =A0 =A0loving</div><div>do =
=A0 =A0you (x2 of prami)</div><div>
=A0 =A0 nu&#39;e =A0 I-promise</div><div>=A0 =A0 la mlatu=A0 =A0Cat (x2 of =
nu&#39;e)</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 The nu&#39;e la mlatu together are f=
ree-floating, not tied to anything, much like .iu</div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at =
8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.pred=
kiewicz@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ok i just read a bit about all the selma&#39=
;o, didn&#39;t really know about<br>
it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to<br>
learn a bunch of gismu first.<br>
My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu&#39;e} would<br=
>
only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}.<br>
But i guess {do}&#39;s definition &quot;identified by vocative&quot; means =
exactly this...<br>
<br>
cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me..<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com">paul.predkiewicz@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:nictytan@gmail.com">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; .i iu mi no&#39;u la cipni ze&#39;e prami do nu&#39;e la mlat=
u<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; melrai :P<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; That is indeed very cute :3<br>
&gt;&gt; i like the nu&#39;e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of pram=
i? Of<br>
&gt;&gt; course if it had an x3, which it doesn&#39;t..<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 No. =A0Most people forget that &quot;ne&#39;u&quot; is a COI, so i=
t grabs the &quot;la mlatu&quot;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br></div></div></block=
quote><div>=A0</div></div></div></div>

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