=A0 Ah... so are you asking if "nu'e la mlatu&quo= t; refers, in some sense, to "do" in the same way that a member o= f UI refers to the=A0preceding=A0word? =A0That's an interesting questio= n, which is probably open. =A0My personal opinion is "no". =A0The= COI+sumti is, as far as I'm concerned, is more-or-less completely outs= ide the realm of the sentence, in much the same was a sei-construct is, and= therefore where it appears is almost inconsequential, except that it affec= ts what all subsequent "do" or "ko" refer to.

=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

On Tue, = Jul 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Paul Predkiewicz <paul.predkiewicz@gmail= .com> wrote:

hm i guess i messed up what i meant, i meant= {nu'e} grabs {la mlatu}
and {do} grabs {nu'e}

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Turniansky

<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu"
>
> .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu -> > [love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat
> =A0iu =A0 =A0 <love>
> mi =A0 =A0 =A0I (x1 of prami)
> =A0 =A0 =A0no'u la cipni [ge'u] =A0 =A0 =A0 who is Bird
> [cu] ze'e =A0 =A0forever
> prami =A0 =A0loving
> do =A0 =A0you (x2 of prami)
> =A0 =A0 nu'e =A0 I-promise
> =A0 =A0 la mlatu =A0 Cat (x2 of nu'e)
>
> =A0 The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anyt= hing, much
> like .iu
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
> <paul.predkiewicz@gma= il.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really = know about
>> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to=
>> learn a bunch of gismu first.
>> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e}= would
>> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}. >> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative&quo= t; means exactly
>> this...
>>
>> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me..
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky
>> <mturniansky@gmail.com= > wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
>> > <paul.predki= ewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'= e la mlatu
>> >> >
>> >> > melrai :P
>> >> >
>> >> > mu'o mi'e la tsani
>> >>
>> >> That is indeed very cute :3
>> >> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x= 3 of prami? Of
>> >> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't..
>> >>
>> > =A0 No. =A0Most people forget that "ne'u" is a = COI, so it grabs the "la
>> > mlatu"
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
>> >
>>
>
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