Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:41374) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp5HA-0000Za-Q6; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:20:56 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf1866518ghb.16 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3+XXU3OBKKGY3QgUE9CwLnbxOuqb7WiuuNvAwCyfjvY=; b=sHoFHxNls5UfR4Sgre0rl9VHU4oPE+rQQ79DS9ii4Y5tY8ced4f8eF9Aqxcs7SuWJK kPCxYoYZi6Z3mB8DQTRrOs7tvR+hWpipxws2HNQifUhxSAAyvzUtZdmYbD2dAdqa2LJK Ka3QJ5sFhRvz+hHkTo5LZytZ6fihaBKxB0/h0= Received: by 10.224.180.198 with SMTP id bv6mr3734212qab.14.1342045246302; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.105.206 with SMTP id u14ls1549678qco.4.gmail; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.215.194 with SMTP id hf2mr3684qab.0.1342045244896; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.106.136 with SMTP id x8msqao; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.141 with SMTP id w13mr1237045vdt.18.1342029053808; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) From: jammyatjammy@gmail.com To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban-beginners] lo nu pilno zo kakne ce'onai lo sucta MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1438_12521135.1342029053237" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1438_12521135.1342029053237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 le munvelski be zo kakne du la'e zoi gy x1 is able to do/be/capable of doing/being x2 (event/state) under conditions x3 (event/state) gy .i xu zoi gy being gy nibyti'i lo du'u zo kakne kakne lo selpli secau zo nu to noi simsa nunpli fi tu'a le vi jufra toi The description of "kakne" is "x1 is able to do/be/capable of doing/being x2 (event/state) under conditions x3 (event/state)". Does "being" imply that "kakne" can be used without "nu" after it, and instead using a simple sumti (as I did above). Probably a simpler example is {mi kakne lo tavla be fo la lojban.} - "I can-be a talker in-language Lojban" .i xu di'u xagytadji lo nu pilno zo kakne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/MglB_9Irw54J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1438_12521135.1342029053237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable le munvelski be zo kakne du la'e zoi gy x1 is able to do/be/capable of doin= g/being x2 (event/state) under conditions x3 (event/state) gy .i xu zoi gy = being gy nibyti'i lo du'u zo kakne kakne lo selpli secau zo nu to noi simsa= nunpli fi tu'a le vi jufra toi

The description of "kakn= e" is "x1 is able to do/be/capable of doing/being x2 (event/state) under co= nditions x3 (event/state)". Does "being" imply that "kakne" can be used wit= hout "nu" after it, and instead using a simple sumti (as I did above).

Probably a simpler example is {mi kakne lo tavla be fo= la lojban.} - "I can-be a talker in-language Lojban" .i xu di'u xagytadji = lo nu pilno zo kakne

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