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Am 14.07.2012 23:09, schrieb Pierre Abbat:
> On Saturday 14 July 2012 07:00:41 selpa'i wrote:
>> Here are a few options:
>>
>> lo kumfa pe li pa re ci == "The room associated with the number 123"
>> lo kumfa pa re ci moi == "The 123th room"
>> lo me li pa re ci kumfa == "The 123-room"
>>
>> Replace kumfa with sorpeka/sorprekarce for the bus equivalents.
>
> The second one should be "lo pa re ci moi kumfa" or "lo kumfa co pa re ci
> moi".

No, it should not. It's {pa re ci moi lo kumfa} "123th of the buses". 
Turning it into a tanru results in a flip, as the seltau fills the x2 of 
moi, which gives us {lo kumfa pa re ci moi}.
{lo pa re ci moi kumfa} is not wrong, but objecting to {lo kumfa pa re 
ci moi} is.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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