Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:53217) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXiA-0003xQ-1Q; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:47 -0700 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10sf3987570vcb.16 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pWP0c+Do8BXyqjklwERtzPRdSeyiyBEQkTct2vcUXaQ=; b=NY/WVRrCUH3S2zrHV5xwBHuekakWVy6+4tLHqmSeWf0FMFWuJeo0cdTkRfBo8/KvPP 6uMsxPfOKoLLhsrKg7rwj1jdYZbHU+UsRjZYZo7Urpog+Po2HYuLWtyxOefsdg797MsR IAI1xxuJQjLpD0HSzoh9jHq7QedjQkKbWCoys= Received: by 10.52.174.167 with SMTP id bt7mr522571vdc.15.1342392878981; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.71.2 with SMTP id q2ls2489630vdu.7.gmail; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.155.207 with SMTP id vy15mr535048vdb.13.1342392878494; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mudri To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <72243997-c376-4cfb-8ada-aeaa45d3855e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <8226125c-b6b5-4f96-862a-28c390d5d8bf@googlegroups.com> <9d0634fb-2be2-474b-8009-ca1f19d58861@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Translating "how" + infinitive MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jammyatjammy@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jammyatjammy@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_387_3023422.1342392877409" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_387_3023422.1342392877409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed; I hadn't noticed that. On Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:52:08 UTC+1, .arpis. wrote: > > .oise'i > > I must have mixed up the subtleties between {ka'e} and {kakne}... > {ka'e} is defined to be innate, though, right? > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: > >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM, .arpis. = =20 >> wrote: >> > Since {certu} has an x3 "by standard" place, it arguably fits better= =20 >> than >> > {kakne}, which is an innate capacity. Even someone who doesn't know ho= w=20 >> to >> > swim has the innate capacity to do so (arguably). >> >> "kakne" isn't defined as innate. That would be "se jinzi". >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at=20 >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> >> > > > --=20 > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/J7NFw62Cs4MJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_387_3023422.1342392877409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed; I hadn't noticed that.

On Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:52:08 UTC+= 1, .arpis. wrote:
.oise'i
<= br>I must have mixed up the subtleties between {ka'e} and {kakne}...
{ka= 'e} is defined to be innate, though, right?

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <= jjllambias@gmail.= com> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM, .arpis= . <rp= glover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since {certu} has an x3 "by standard" place, it arguably fits better t= han
> {kakne}, which is an innate capacity. Even someone who doesn't know ho= w to
> swim has the innate capacity to do so (arguably).

"kakne" isn't defined as innate. That would be "se jinzi".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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