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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, tanbla <azuritiss@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi rodo
>
> I made a previous post about how to say "I hate washing the dishes" which
> is {mi xebni lonu lumci lo palta}. However, if I wanted to say "I like
> washing the dishes" I can't just say {mi nelci lonu lumci lo palta} because
> {nelci} takes a state/object for x2, right? If so, then how do I say "I
> like washing the dishes"?
>

You can. It has the same place structure as xebni. (Why one says
"object/abstraction" and the other says "object/state" is beyond me,
though.)


> One other thing, how do I say "no, thank you"? Can I just say {na'igo'i .i
> ki'e}?
>

I would say {ki'enai}.


> ki'e
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, tanbla <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:azuritiss@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">azu=
ritiss@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
coi rodo<div><br></div><div>I made a previous post about how to say &quot;I=
 hate washing the dishes&quot; which is {mi xebni lonu lumci lo palta}. How=
ever, if I wanted to say &quot;I like washing the dishes&quot; I can&#39;t =
just say {mi nelci lonu lumci lo palta} because {nelci} takes a state/objec=
t for x2, right? If so, then how do I say &quot;I like washing the dishes&q=
uot;?</div>
</blockquote><div><br>You can. It has the same place structure as xebni. (W=
hy one says &quot;object/abstraction&quot; and the other says &quot;object/=
state&quot; is beyond me, though.)<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">
<div></div><div>One other thing, how do I say &quot;no, thank you&quot;? Ca=
n I just say {na&#39;igo&#39;i .i ki&#39;e}?</div></blockquote><div><br>I w=
ould say {ki&#39;enai}.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
<div></div><div>ki&#39;e</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888=
">

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