Received: from mail-vb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.212.56]:42277) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SseCh-0003Zm-NF; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:15:04 -0700 Received: by vbbfa15 with SMTP id fa15sf5370481vbb.1 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=rqXEp1W04F+G92NcepG9MCuLIUXSCrzsqGfCEy+C7kk=; b=TEQNiOcRbv+vmtYHUvFF51c0Flbagbp4aMzytWKU7/gqdKzjBDWIMArrDlNXp8Kafl +Ht3Esh/cCu++xxwYnQT4UGKvwDzhqcIuyMU9LCiuYAZxVWtVmBeoqyl1mIvu4k+Iv/2 FRiLabv0lpIG85XfuTJo50D1Nlx2JyMVEmNwM= Received: by 10.50.212.74 with SMTP id ni10mr1668372igc.6.1342894492943; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.4.98 with SMTP id 34ls5677734ibq.9.gmail; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.46.144 with SMTP id k16mr3957979icf.13.1342894492408; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.46.144 with SMTP id k16mr3957978icf.13.1342894492399; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay00.pair.com (relay00.pair.com. [209.68.5.9]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id j4si704803igq.2.2012.07.21.11.14.52; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.9; Received: (qmail 45353 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2012 18:14:50 -0000 Received: from 87.160.144.199 (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (87.160.144.199) by relay00.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2012 18:14:50 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 87.160.144.199 Message-ID: <500AF19A.7000000@plasmatix.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:14:50 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: When I leave, clean up the house. References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.9 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 21.07.2012 19:48, schrieb tanbla: > That helps alot. I can also use {pu} and {ba} to mean before and > after, right? That's right. With {pu}, the main bridi happens before the tagged event, and with {ba}, the main bridi happens after the tagged event: (1) mi lumci lo mi kumfa pu lo nu do cliva "I clean my room before you leave." (2) mi lumci lo mi kumfa ba lo nu do cliva "I clean my room after you leave." mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.