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coi iocikun ui

First off, {sedu'u} and its friends like {nu} produce a selbri, so you need
to use {lo} like this: {lo sedu'u broda}.
As for the main question about the referents of the sumti inside sedu'u,
they refer to things outside the sedu'u, if you know what I mean. In
particular, in your example, the second do refers to the woman, because she
is the one being talked to.
As for {ko}, in current usage {ko} binds to the bridi in which it appears,
making the command apply only to that bridi.

mu'o

On 6 August 2012 22:37, .iocikun.juj. <yoshikuni.jujo@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi
>
> I have a question.
> If the man said to the woman: "do cusku sedu'u mi prami do"
> First "do" is the woman, but which is second "do", the man or the woman?
> The man loves the woman or the woman loves the man?
>
> And,  does "do cusku sedu'u ko prami" tell "Please say" or "Please love"?
> In CLL Chapter 7, example 2.6 "mi viska le prenu poi prami ko" tells
> "Please show."
> But can "sedu'u" bridi be interpreted like "poi" bridi.
>
> I want to know what "mi", "do", "ko" and so on mean in "sedu'u" bridi and
> "du'u" bridi.
>
> Please help me.
> Thank you.
>
> mu'o
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coi iocikun ui<div><br></div><div>First off, {sedu&#39;u} and its friends l=
ike {nu} produce a selbri, so you need to use {lo} like this: {lo sedu&#39;=
u broda}.</div><div>As for the main question about the referents of the sum=
ti inside sedu&#39;u, they refer to things outside the sedu&#39;u, if you k=
now what I mean. In particular, in your example, the second do refers to th=
e woman, because she is the one being talked to.</div>

<div>As for {ko}, in current usage {ko} binds to the bridi in which it appe=
ars, making the command apply only to that bridi.</div><div><br></div><div>=
mu&#39;o<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6 August 2012 22:37, .iocikun=
.juj. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yoshikuni.jujo@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">yoshikuni.jujo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">coi<br><br>I have a question.<br>If the man =
said to the woman: &quot;do cusku sedu&#39;u mi prami do&quot;<br>First &qu=
ot;do&quot; is the woman, but which is second &quot;do&quot;, the man or th=
e woman?<br>

The man loves the woman or the woman loves the man?<br><br>And,=A0 does &qu=
ot;do cusku sedu&#39;u ko prami&quot; tell &quot;Please say&quot; or &quot;=
Please love&quot;?<br>In CLL Chapter 7, example 2.6 &quot;mi viska le prenu=
 poi prami ko&quot; tells &quot;Please show.&quot;<br>

But can &quot;sedu&#39;u&quot; bridi be interpreted like &quot;poi&quot; br=
idi.<br><br>I want to know what &quot;mi&quot;, &quot;do&quot;, &quot;ko&qu=
ot; and so on mean in &quot;sedu&#39;u&quot; bridi and &quot;du&#39;u&quot;=
 bridi.<br>

<br>Please help me.<br>Thank you.<br><br>mu&#39;o<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fo=
nt color=3D"#888888"><br>

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