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On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> I think you mean "do cusku lo sedu'u mi prami do". The second "do"
> refers to the same person as the first "do". It would be otherwise if you
> had
> said "do cusku lu mi prami do li'u".
>
> Pierre
> --
> gau do li'i co'e kei do
>
>
 Is that true?  If it were "lo du'u mi prami do" it would be true for sure.
 But isn't "sedu'u" the text which expresses the bridi x1?

sedu'u has always kind of confused me.  It's not a bridi, it's a "text
expressing [bridi] which is x2", but not the kind of "text" that you get
with lu li'u?

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On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
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<div class=3D"im">I think you mean &quot;do cusku lo sedu&#39;u mi prami do=
&quot;. The second &quot;do&quot;</div>
refers to the same person as the first &quot;do&quot;. It would be otherwis=
e if you had<br>
said &quot;do cusku lu mi prami do li&#39;u&quot;.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
Pierre<br>
--<br>
gau do li&#39;i co&#39;e kei do<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>=A0Is that true? =A0If it were &quot;lo du&#39;u mi prami do&quot; i=
t would be true for sure. =A0But isn&#39;t &quot;sedu&#39;u&quot; the text =
which expresses the bridi x1?</div>

<div><br></div><div>sedu&#39;u has always kind of confused me. =A0It&#39;s =
not a bridi, it&#39;s a &quot;text expressing [bridi] which is x2&quot;, bu=
t not the kind of &quot;text&quot; that you get with lu li&#39;u?</div></di=
v>

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