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Coi ro do,

I am just learning Lojban. For my first post, I am going to list some lujvo 
(compound words, from my understanding) that I have made to express certain 
English words in Lojban. Here is what I have contrived so far:

*Animals:*

   - pangolin - ?*mantyctimabru (? + mantyctimabru; scaly anteater) *Here I 
   am trying to figure out what Lojbanic word would mean "scale" in the sense 
   of an integumentary flake, as on a reptile, a fish, or on the wings of a 
   butterfly or moth.
   - tadpole - cifpipybanfi (cif, rafsi of cifnu + pipybanfi; baby frog), 
   on the model of "ciftoldi" (caterpillar). 
   - froglet - naru'epipybanfi (naru'e + pipybanfi; almost-frog)
   - newly-metamorphosed frog* - ci'opipybanfi (ci'o, rafsi of citno + 
   pipybanfi; young frog) *What I like to call a "baby frog."

*Ecology:*

   - extinction (in the sense of hunting to or intentionally causing 
   extinction) - mulcatra (mul, rafsi of mulno + catra; complete kill)
   - extinction (in the sense of dying out naturally or indirectly caused 
   by human activity) - mulnunmro (mul, rafsi of mulno  + nunmro)

Note that I have consulted the jbovlaste for the words (and Wiktionary for 
"mantyctimabru"). I have probably made some mistakes here - please let me 
know what you all think!

Tu'u,
cariar.jermanis.

PS: When is the schwa (y) added between gismu and their respective rafsi, 
as seen in "pipybanfi" and "mantyctimabru?" For pipybanfi, the rafsi "pip" 
of the gismu "plipe" does not have a final vowel, so I will suppose that 
the schwa is added as a helping vowel. The gismu "manti," which, according 
to the jbovlaste, does not appear to have any rafsi, has a final vowel, and 
the word "anteater" in Lojban could be spelled as mantictimabru, but the 
final "i" of manti is made into a schwa. Why is this?

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Coi ro do,<div><br></div><div>I am just learning Lojban. For my first post,=
 I am going to list some lujvo (compound words, from my understanding) that=
 I have made to express certain English words in Lojban. Here is what I hav=
e contrived so far:</div><div><br></div><div><b>Animals:</b></div><div><ul>=
<li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; ">pangolin - ?*mantyctimabru (? +&n=
bsp;mantyctimabru;&nbsp;scaly&nbsp;anteater) *<font size=3D"1">Here I am tr=
ying to figure out what Lojbanic word would mean "scale" in the sense of an=
 integumentary flake, as on a reptile, a fish, or on the wings of a butterf=
ly or moth.</font></span><br></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; "=
><font size=3D"2">tadpole - cifpipybanfi (cif, rafsi of cifnu + pipybanfi; =
baby frog), on the model of "ciftoldi" (caterpillar).&nbsp;<br></font></spa=
n></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal; "><font size=3D"2">froglet -=
 naru'epipybanfi (</font></span><span style=3D"font-size: small; line-heigh=
t: normal; ">naru'e + pipybanfi; almost-frog)</span></li><li><span style=3D=
"font-size: small; line-height: normal; ">newly-metamorphosed frog* - ci'op=
ipybanfi (ci'o, rafsi of citno + pipybanfi; young frog) *</span><span style=
=3D"line-height: normal; "><font size=3D"1">What I like to call a "baby fro=
g."</font></span></li></ul></div><div><b>Ecology:</b></div><div><ul><li><sp=
an style=3D"line-height: normal;">extinction (in the sense of hunting to or=
 intentionally causing extinction) - mulcatra (mul, rafsi of mulno + catra;=
 complete kill)</span><br></li><li><span style=3D"line-height: normal;">ext=
inction (in the sense of dying out naturally or indirectly caused by human =
activity) - mulnunmro (mul, rafsi of mulno&nbsp;&nbsp;+ nunmro)</span></li>=
</ul><div><span style=3D"line-height: 17px;">Note that I have consulted the=
 jbovlaste for the words (and Wiktionary for "mantyctimabru"). I have proba=
bly made some mistakes here <font size=3D"2">-</font> please let me know wh=
at you all think!</span></div></div><div><span style=3D"line-height: 17px;"=
><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"line-height: 17px;">Tu'u,</span></div=
><div><span style=3D"line-height: 17px;">cariar.jermanis.</span></div><div>=
<span style=3D"line-height: 17px;"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"lin=
e-height: 17px;">PS: When is the schwa (y) added between gismu and their re=
spective rafsi, as seen in "pipybanfi"&nbsp;and "mantyctimabru?" For pipyba=
nfi, the rafsi "pip" of the gismu "plipe" does not have a final vowel, so I=
 will suppose that the schwa is added as a helping vowel. The gismu "manti,=
" which, according to the jbovlaste, does not appear to have any rafsi, has=
 a final vowel, and the word "anteater" in Lojban could be spelled as manti=
ctimabru, but the final "i" of manti is made into a schwa. Why is this?</sp=
an></div>

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