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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Coi ro do, Here I will attempt to translate an inscription made by the Persian king Darius in his palace at Persepolis. *Lojban translation:* tu'e. la daraiavauc*. nolraitru banli. nolraitru le nolraitru ku. nolraitru le gugde ku. bersa la victaspahas*. ce 'axamanic**. pu zbasu ti nolzda. tu'u *I have used the original Old Persian names here, which are Dārayavauš, Vištāspaha, and Haxāmaniš, respectively. **In this case, I will make this a fu'ivla. If I wanted to refer to just Achaemenes himself, I would say "la 'axamanic." to make it a cmene, correct? Also, I am having a feeling that words in Lojban cannot start with /h/, and if this is indeed the case, would I want to add a schwa at the beginning? [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (primitive_tetrapod[at]yahoo.com) -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.161.189 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature ------=_Part_442_15631548.1345184007103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coi ro do, Here I will attempt to translate an inscription made by the Persian king=20 Darius in his palace at Persepolis. *Lojban translation:* tu'e. la daraiavauc*. nolraitru banli. nolraitru le nolraitru ku. nolraitru le=20 gugde ku. bersa la victaspahas*. ce 'axamanic**. pu zbasu ti nolzda. tu'u *I have used the original Old Persian names here, which are D=C4=81rayavau= =C5=A1,=20 Vi=C5=A1t=C4=81spaha, and Hax=C4=81mani=C5=A1, respectively. **In this case, I will make this a fu'ivla. If I wanted to refer to just=20 Achaemenes himself, I would say "la 'axamanic." to make it a cmene,=20 correct? Also, I am having a feeling that words in Lojban cannot start with= =20 /h/, and if this is indeed the case, would I want to add a schwa at the=20 beginning? *English translation of original Old Persian:* Darius, great king, king of kings, king of countries, Hystaspes' son, an=20 Achaemenid, who built this palace. Mu'o mi'e cariar.jermanis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/qobcODHT5ZUJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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Coi ro do,

Here I will attempt to translate a= n inscription made by the Persian king Darius in his palace at Persepolis.<= /div>

Lojban translation:
tu'e.
la daraiavauc*. nolraitru banli. nolraitru le nolraitru ku. nolraitru le= gugde ku. bersa la victaspahas*. ce 'axamanic**. pu zbasu ti nolzda.
=
tu'u
*I have used the original Old Persian = names here, which are  D=C4=81rayavau=C5=A1, Vi=C5=A1t=C4=81spaha, and= Hax=C4=81mani=C5=A1, respectively.
**In = this case, I will make this a fu'ivla. If I wanted to refer to just Achaeme= nes himself, I would say "la 'axamanic." to make it a cmene, correct? Also,= I am having a feeling that words in Lojban cannot start with /h/, and if t= his is indeed the case, would I want to add a schwa at the beginning?

English translation of original Old Persian:<= /b>
Darius, great king, king of kings, king of countries, Hystasp= es' son, an Achaemenid, who built this palace.

Mu'= o mi'e cariar.jermanis.

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