Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:46419) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T5wJp-0000Rb-CM; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:13:27 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf1419627bkw.16 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=hK6JjWPAwzxF4preTJxrm/tTdYd/jnYwKKwvZeOdm4M=; b=Qu8aFuaaJsk9B85w5kt1MJDQ0QGeyThRKqaKbnSkRQBMA2AI6T2ESvY1DSNuohkP08 HXgvG2du/sGEDCSyeup/mAf+RaKuW6SBpGipkR0mVV3Dt+J7NcbDQiym6kCMJ0mvQCRL 1QZuW9sWKI/FUwOWCAFSzopnLtjvUfF8nSFC0t6Js8noxCQRfaJJQVn8LsmZinH+hHlB IYtamsFASHI986mdlf97ad0dnmV/QJWrTLmmfFIR2aW2ZS2fKpJGKIGNR53njZyy/XLz hi09jwBeJFusDYoTVARf6gorDq3ssAot2Q+Vm2623mEfApZUFaZmE/ADSL29ZXjebli2 r/3Q== Received: by 10.180.96.65 with SMTP id dq1mr970942wib.2.1346062366012; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.143.147 with SMTP id l19ls3760961wej.4.gmail; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr1681443wib.2.1346062365193; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr1681441wib.2.1346062365180; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hm1si1553393wib.3.2012.08.27.03.12.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbc058d.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.5.141]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7CF5F860B08 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:12:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:12:44 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Yo Mamma jokes. Message-ID: <20120827101244.GG25027@samsa> References: <20120826103630.GC25027@samsa> <20120826210018.GE25027@samsa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="t4apE7yKrX2dGgJC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --t4apE7yKrX2dGgJC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 06:51:15PM -0700, ianek wrote: > > {.i lo ba'e se bunda be lo do mamta be'o banzu lonu galfi fa lonu vo'a = zutse > > lo vipci'e pe li re kei vy. lo porsi} >=20 > pe'i neither {bunda} nor {se bunda} is what you want here. x1 of bunda > is some weight (or possibly an object?) and x2 is a number (of local > units of weight representing the weight). So "lo bunda be X" implies > that X is a number and "lo se bunda" is a number. I can't tell why > would you want local units at all. A correct way is to use {junta}: x1 > is the weight of object x2 in [gravitational or other force] field x3. > {lo junta be lo do mamta} etc. You're mostly right. I didn't know about {junta} and found {bunda} first. There is a second (unofficial) definition of {bunda} in jbovlaste that changed it from the baseline: {x1} weighs {x2} units .. That's the one I used, that's why I think my wording is also valid (though using {junta} is much better) v4hn --t4apE7yKrX2dGgJC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlA7SBwACgkQMBKLZs4+wjy1MACaAoaQVRCBBGO3tdxNqI7fNMmA 7GMAn2Bh8fxBx4218JCarwnNnqZjoyP9 =JOp4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --t4apE7yKrX2dGgJC--