Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:61132) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T62bJ-00055a-Gi; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:49 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf3781259qad.16 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=M1UvLg+/XOrdx2elARaBn+mVdNEe90UMeFD2SJTjdQU=; b=WBeb0hIIs6MyyJkhIPmH1v66X06fBsK1OObpJiC8AKQpKvwPrcyfMiOyZO8yqj7vn4 JaitZTpd3nLL+TbzzaI1hSk+7Zzkx3s1Ku4AHyEyTyB93bpoopVbJtQT46e/uDdsa4fg j9XPOwUWi0JhsB5vZdgk+j04yvisNGW6LAvYonk5svnSR/AmsqWGsl9Z6JLKD8OEoQF4 RNr4V/7a3MHGSuSs7FSIIicw+xM1JyOpsLqKiJ/+/2oYCMqyWr4G1MxZpgtHiF1qDx5X 3YII9LeUJP7czutUM/4diO5/0hfxEzJ9kAJopkU5K6UDq8ZNSxpudhb0CxJhsmblltve qsrA== Received: by 10.236.74.38 with SMTP id w26mr902509yhd.18.1346086538316; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.173.34 with SMTP id a34ls727352anp.4.gmail; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.194 with SMTP id u42mr8521506yhm.29.1346086537536; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.194 with SMTP id u42mr8521504yhm.29.1346086537524; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r20si2073509ano.1.2012.08.27.09.55.37; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DAB21D50 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Right Place? Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:55:35 -0400 Message-ID: <1415873.lY6kRfmrTO@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.4 (Linux/3.2.0-29-generic; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <2cecf06a-404c-452e-b1d9-6802e28f961a@googlegroups.com> References: <2cecf06a-404c-452e-b1d9-6802e28f961a@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, August 26, 2012 15:57:10 Sarah H wrote: > I am new and I am very enthusiastic about learning Lojban. However, I feel > a little lost. I've been trying to learn the basics on my own, but I have > about a million questions. Could someone point me in the right direction to > an expert that wants to teach or a beginner that wants to learn Lojban > together? Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm having difficulty > finding audio clips of someone singing the alphabet, counting, telling the > time, asking 'How do you say this in Lojban', etc...I thought that was the > way one generally learned a language. > Anyone want to share with me how they started speaking Lojban? > -Sarah I normally attack a new language by reading a book in it along with the same book in a language I already know. This wasn't available when I started, but there is now a translation of Alice. I think what I did was read the grammar and the word lists and start composing sentences. > PS: I would love to 'Lojbanise' my name. Sarah means princess or high > ranking female. I'd go with "saras" or "sarat" (I add a "t" to feminine names in Afro-Asiatic languages, so Eve is xavat, and Sarah is sarat, in the Bible). As to your email address, "ciftoldi" means "baby butterfly", and the Caterpillar in Alice is so called. Pierre -- sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.