Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:34246) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6JvZ-0006io-FZ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:58 -0700 Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2sf5656950pbb.16 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8q4UIhY1FL6OePOlXQV84mGtUC7gDoLzK4erYWQ70cs=; b=nDcj2Zt5FmbNjiOUGgGEjF7Q5AASll83eAirXw2V8JZvis+d58QrUyND1RYnRtgFoT Dh/qN8lIyZandHYjPLGRGO+1xQF4trGR3PlA8ElZKOwxEiXrsym6d3PGJ8bzkvT9mGcN 6NCfyWzvwJUq07NpVZaEfVwH10Y7OZ1aaqhgJXuOd9HWd4uVXkXsindD6WMltYNsc7Mu HVzAwdNWw5W7j5Zcopvu5VGCvuUIzp0i9iRN6ueQy/kU6soKHQCXaL8lbYC9o0XOfFwQ F0STM2UUjQf1ikWz70jy1aC7nXFepH/d7Qf0wFO7BSS2BnjKq6CC90f0yA/dTsd1Fe4N T15w== Received: by 10.52.38.99 with SMTP id f3mr2275203vdk.5.1346153142931; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.223.69 with SMTP id ij5ls138664vcb.6.gmail; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.102 with SMTP id bf6mr5856823ved.21.1346153142148; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.102 with SMTP id bf6mr5856822ved.21.1346153142136; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y4si4004682vds.2.2012.08.28.04.25.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.176; Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so5475543vcb.7 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.249.195 with SMTP id yw3mr15586162vec.43.1346153141868; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.238.129 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1415873.lY6kRfmrTO@caracal> References: <2cecf06a-404c-452e-b1d9-6802e28f961a@googlegroups.com> <1415873.lY6kRfmrTO@caracal> From: Paul Predkiewicz Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:25:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Right Place? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86f3aad599d204c851b329 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b86f3aad599d204c851b329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Welcome, i started learning Lojban by first reading the "What is lojban" book, which contains most(?) grammar. Later i started to learn the gismu list on memrise.com And here i am now, enjoying lojban "yo mama"-jokes. ^^ Even though i still need to look up most gismu, as i have learned only about 250 of them on memrise, and dont know any rafsi or cmavo, it still is fun. 2012/8/27 Pierre Abbat > On Sunday, August 26, 2012 15:57:10 Sarah H wrote: > > I am new and I am very enthusiastic about learning Lojban. However, I > feel > > a little lost. I've been trying to learn the basics on my own, but I have > > about a million questions. Could someone point me in the right direction > to > > an expert that wants to teach or a beginner that wants to learn Lojban > > together? Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm having difficulty > > finding audio clips of someone singing the alphabet, counting, telling > the > > time, asking 'How do you say this in Lojban', etc...I thought that was > the > > way one generally learned a language. > > Anyone want to share with me how they started speaking Lojban? > > -Sarah > > I normally attack a new language by reading a book in it along with the > same > book in a language I already know. This wasn't available when I started, > but > there is now a translation of Alice. I think what I did was read the > grammar > and the word lists and start composing sentences. > > > PS: I would love to 'Lojbanise' my name. Sarah means princess or high > > ranking female. > > I'd go with "saras" or "sarat" (I add a "t" to feminine names in > Afro-Asiatic > languages, so Eve is xavat, and Sarah is sarat, in the Bible). As to your > email address, "ciftoldi" means "baby butterfly", and the Caterpillar in > Alice > is so called. > > Pierre > -- > sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --047d7b86f3aad599d204c851b329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome, i started learning Lojban by first reading the "What is lojba= n" book, which contains most(?) grammar. Later i started to learn the = gismu list on memrise.com
And here i= am now, enjoying lojban "yo mama"-jokes. ^^
Even though i still need to look up most gismu, as i have learned only= about 250 of them on memrise,=A0and dont know any rafsi or cmavo,=A0it sti= ll is fun.



2012/8/27 Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
On Sunday, August 26, 2012 15:57:10 Sarah H wrote:
> I am new and I am very enthusiastic about learning Lojban. However, I = feel
> a little lost. I've been trying to learn the basics on my own, but= I have
> about a million questions. Could someone point me in the right directi= on to
> an expert that wants to teach or a beginner that wants to learn Lojban=
> together? Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I'm having = difficulty
> finding audio clips of someone singing the alphabet, counting, telling= the
> time, asking 'How do you say this in Lojban', etc...I thought = that was the
> way one generally learned a language.
> Anyone want to share with me how they started speaking Lojban?
> -Sarah

I normally attack a new language by reading a book in it along with t= he same
book in a language I already know. This wasn't available when I started= , but
there is now a translation of Alice. I think what I did was read the gramma= r
and the word lists and start composing sentences.

> PS: I would love to 'Lojbanise' my name. Sarah means princess = or high
> ranking female.

I'd go with "saras" or "sarat" (I add a "= ;t" to feminine names in Afro-Asiatic
languages, so Eve is xavat, and Sarah is sarat, in the Bible). As to your email address, "ciftoldi" means "baby butterfly", and t= he Caterpillar in Alice
is so called.

Pierre
--
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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