Received: from mail-da0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:39833) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TNHbq-00022D-Up; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:42 -0700 Received: by mail-da0-f61.google.com with SMTP id k18sf3416480dae.16 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sPcwEQ8l+I2Yxc92SDWuJqLu0aHDegc9+qShbb2xOxY=; b=eqT0KETcDDsPb0elqQ0Ww9kYF73DBQsYTgsvqQKM914PpPNyRqnknOOfk18f1Rb8si dgwfEZtHRdOIdmqmN0AUpiOz2zQSqshYBNBMaoJZD4YCkfhV9eI3yMlqjKJfCiwToHTe e5rCoYnREZsvwdsgs8nZ5ytZTa3N+iP9kVSJJi1fsQfOHuwjEQvjeoNfl3AyE7BxdLds XUR3+fkG88Yni92CalEzQLj8JNGqmzAH9GMxFXIraF2JjaqCemjNTT4SAu+WtsfCcT8/ IR7fvPn83g3DGxuCiBorQ83wBkQnpNvYGsqsns9rb5qdmH/eQR3gVXTi62rIhrY0MOV9 eqGA== Received: by 10.68.253.129 with SMTP id aa1mr2001068pbd.17.1350195808366; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.212.6 with SMTP id ng6ls61344pbc.4.gmail; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.229.231 with SMTP id st7mr1997386pbc.2.1350195807990; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindar To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <68fae620-1dac-4141-bec6-cb5a36f6ac19@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5b77ddee-f0ab-4b00-b442-731f449a94d1@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Place structure vs. grammatical morphemes MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_237_14124751.1350195807400" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_237_14124751.1350195807400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's just your perspective on language. Just imagine that you grew up speaking Lojban and you're looking at English. What's the purpose of "to" when it's intrinsic to the word itself anyway? I imagine a Lojban native would have trouble understanding "to" or "from". You're still thinking terms of your native language, so to you "implies 'to' already" is bad thinking. It's more like a function and less like a 'shortcut' to an English phrase. So, in short, stop trying to relate it to English. It's not a shortcut and it doesn't imply anything. It's a language on its own. <3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/TNu8fURTP3oJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_237_14124751.1350195807400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's just your perspective on language. Just imagine that you grew up = speaking Lojban and you're looking at English. What's the purpose of "to" w= hen it's intrinsic to the word itself anyway? I imagine a Lojban native wou= ld have trouble understanding "to" or "from". You're still thinking terms o= f your native language, so to you "implies 'to' already" is bad thinking. I= t's more like a function and less like a 'shortcut' to an English phrase.
So, in short, stop trying to relate it to English.
<= div>It's not a shortcut and it doesn't imply anything.
It's a lan= guage on its own. <3

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