On Sunday, 14 October 2012 12:22:= 20 UTC+1, gleki wrote:=20

I don't understand. If English "to" has multiple meanings then why sho= uld Lojban be polysemous just like English?

It absolutely shouldn't. One the most appealing features of Lojban to = me is that each symbol has only one meaning. My point was not that a symbol= should represent multiple meanings.

But if you want one morpheme for one meaning of English "to" this is h= ow Lojban already works

But the morphemes aren't spoken, they are implied by the place structu= re. How does this work in practice if a novice has limited knowledge of the= brivla place structures? And doesn't having to learn the place structure f= or each brivla add more learning load?

How can you learn Spanish/Japanese/whatever if you speak English?

The place structure of lojban is pretty clear. Even= it's definition describe all places.

This is usually not the cas= e in textbooks of other languages.

You have to figure out how pre= positions/case-markers/whatever work in any language.

In the case= of lojban there is dictionary and a textbook (only in English yet).

<= div>

If I'm gonna learn another language, I will search for t= he same: a textbook and a dictionary.

There are also short forms of predicates. e.g. {seka'a} is kinda prepo= sition that corresponds to the target of movement, roughly it's English "to= ". However, it's better to call such prepositions with a Lojbanic term "sum= tcita" to avoid references to ambiguous western terms.

Ah yes I remember reading about the sumti tcita. Are they used in regu= lar conversation?

Lojban is the most = flexible language I've ever met. So I wanna use both sumtcita and brivla. T= hey just look like different styles of Lojban.

And lastly, I suggest learning Lojban, become fluent in it. Then we ca= n talk about such things in Lojban itself. :)

I'm working on it ;) Personally I find it useful to discuss new langua= ges metalingusitically in order to understand their internal mechanisms.

Believe me (I'm not a fanatic of Lojban= ), if you learn Lojban then understanding the syntax of other languag= es will be much easier.

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