Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:42155) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TNW2M-0007ke-Ty; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:59 -0700 Received: by mail-gh0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f15sf3987019ghb.16 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oJZoNlb3DEp7y+iE/m09qQLdTdLZPfQvHveKD7utotQ=; b=wcgwndUQmvAxs7158xAAndAk2sX60mV3xa2V1Eozquq2BcaZ3NDObxAOb9ht4cUlkp Ra4vFNZE8vHGMQcVpWqZ6itDgpPGb8f4VElQuw4PlyOhIO0GDzMPiSaPC9wVMCiZYQWb JWAWeLz+0Pjr5my04pnjx5lfRGKomH3FMfSmW/mI2fLBevTFG0VGxqhnjgqMc1BqjYPZ 19NtMEiE/Vc7SCSbyUYlekMZ9+mzRofaP2UeLMKocVN0tryUuH38gLE2cv2ZTjtv+twt Crk8gg2H/ljPSH5D54AQyyortCf+oL4jOnpwM4CA0+fxXn3Cvdrce3B1t8aLJl2y941o jw+w== Received: by 10.52.65.33 with SMTP id u1mr1480505vds.18.1350251268034; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.224.8 with SMTP id im8ls3053555vcb.4.gmail; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.71.38 with SMTP id r6mr1445553vdu.12.1350251267619; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: mashers To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <6a0469ba-b182-451c-b314-bf7512162a82@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0000d9a6-f6b5-4164-89e4-452d132f63e5@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Place structure of lujvo MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: mail@mashley.net Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_489_32809459.1350251267161" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_489_32809459.1350251267161 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sunday, 14 October 2012 22:07:41 UTC+1, tsani wrote: > > > I usually just use ciksi when discussing what the definition of a word is > (according to ciksi1), > So you could do { la jbovlaste ciksi zo tamgau fo zoi by. g1 defines t2 into form t1 .by. } Is that right? By the way, the by. and .by. in that bridi are based on the section in What Is Lojban, page 39, on quotations, where quoted non-Lojban text is surrounded by {by.} and {.by.}. When I looked this up in the jbovlaste it stated that {by} is simply the letter 'b'. So I'm not sure what function it serves in this bridi. > but I suppose that {jdice lo du'u makau smuni} could be used for the sense > of "ascribe a meaning to something". > I didn't understand that sentence. Please could you translate it for me? Even looking up the words in the jbovlaste I was unable to understand what it meant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/YKx4slObuSsJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_489_32809459.1350251267161 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sunday, 14 October 2012 22:07:41 UTC+1, tsani wrote:

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I usually just use ciksi when discussing what the definition of = a word is (according to ciksi1),

So you could do { la jbovlaste ciksi zo tamgau fo zoi by.&nbs= p;g1 defines t2 into form t1 .by. }

Is that right? By the way, the by. a= nd .by. in that bridi are based on the section in What Is Lojban, page 39, = on quotations, where quoted non-Lojban text is surrounded by {by.} and {.by= .}. When I looked this up in the jbovlaste it stated that {by} = is simply the letter 'b'. So I'm not sure what function it serves in this b= ridi.
 
but I suppose that {jdice lo du'u makau = smuni} could be used for the sense of "ascribe a meaning to something".

I didn't understand that sen= tence. Please could you translate it for me? Even looking up the words in t= he jbovlaste I was unable to understand what it meant. 

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