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[212.227.17.8]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8si248528wiy.3.2012.10.16.23.33.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.17.8; Received: from [192.168.0.3] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFiib-1TAMym0Erd-00FMx1; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:33:41 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojbanic children References: <2a53328e-272e-4c2b-ae57-71919c43b796@googlegroups.com> <20121016055446.GQ16989@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <353569C5-9E1A-47F1-A569-3810C2D6A04E@cosmicray.co.uk> <20121017034221.GX16989@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: CosmicRay X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <20121017034221.GX16989@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Message-Id: <62449667-67B7-4DFB-AB4F-A58764164A97@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:33:39 +0100 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:JdmMyayBcyyq8hZCNuc54dX+DXutIkok2GLCebkgyX8 R3ni4nC2FaHUKwLqiyhrTfWXowa0I89SIjQoTh32DuX6a6l7JC xTTWdz4jJ1oUPk3YLJHVKTs6d4XIgFRZ5TmsUDIDclwpcYSQlr 6MA1sck4ZIr3k7eO21R7UsGu4aRRC3IpjkvOGr23gaIFua00tN VYPASLEn/HBBdDArjpV9ZOOwnfwtrosK/nos+k+TcwULy6m8R5 fiZWRxhbe4ps1wLttpGqJKTgpri/3hwdt4etKe6E4n8V+Tkc3h lmHoK0pOBq6ZkvvM9nO/Si3Jmk+ID0oVNLylk6QNp44mV1XE0G Zr96bW6ltYGe2Z4BIZo0lrMX7oj9mB3fsl1Lh17+h5/lk8I4cT H6Bazs91rT71A== X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.17.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 17 Oct 2012, at 04:42, Robin Lee Powell wr= ote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:43:09AM +0100, CosmicRay wrote: >> My 17-month old has a working vocabulary of around a thousand >> words or so=20 >=20 > 0.o >=20 > That's a bit exceptional, no? It's one to two orders of magnitude more than her immediate peers, and we'v= e got used to the nursery(/kindergarten) she attends a few hours a week exc= itedly telling us all about her verbal prowess, but I don't know if it's ex= ceptional. I've heard anecdotal evidence of outliers her age who properly = use pronouns, verb conjugations, adverbs, clauses, time references and so o= n and speak in >10 word sentences. I'd call *that* exceptional. >> but still reverts to calling her mother "mama" when she's very >> tired or upset, it definitely isn't babbled and definitely isn't >> something we've taught her. Interesting phenomenon that it's so >> widespread :-) >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_and_papa says that it's basically > "that's what kids say, and everybody assumes it's about them". > Except, according to that page, the Japanese, who assume it's about > food. I find that pretty hilarious, for some reason. Hahaha, brilliant! So it's probably fair to assume that these names most l= ikely came about from babies' use of them more than (in most cultures) the = self-labelling of them by parents first. kozmikreis --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.