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[212.227.126.187]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id js4si780175pbb.2.2012.10.16.23.49.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.187 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) client-ip=212.227.126.187; Received: from [192.168.0.3] (82-71-48-121.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.48.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M0e7e-1TcCbU3HRO-00uMwF; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:49:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojbanic children References: <2a53328e-272e-4c2b-ae57-71919c43b796@googlegroups.com> <20121016055446.GQ16989@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <353569C5-9E1A-47F1-A569-3810C2D6A04E@cosmicray.co.uk> <20121017034221.GX16989@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <62449667-67B7-4DFB-AB4F-A58764164A97@cosmicray.co.uk> From: CosmicRay X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: <62449667-67B7-4DFB-AB4F-A58764164A97@cosmicray.co.uk> Message-Id: <4A088A9B-7785-4210-B745-41DE2D2B6925@cosmicray.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:49:45 +0100 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:sOcWMJzVMKWZgFCu9AfbNhgbenw/oqUK161wAgpEqDx Ynv3NKhkS1YLTsVhmVc0ssl6jSV/+lsRGGZhpe6gM09MJ+v8V4 8toChgavYlpa1OAbDmlH0RYaS9qGcE8oDIp6nCnB965TG6bSKH lNZAUrox41hjO4+hIyQ7jrHPOrLraC8riGwrx43bqc//drzpE9 x8FofJh4MlkIi0sF+KjnQctVqoOQruczeGf7HXTSLBKwqY6ILa dythFHnFf0m6VdY6gmXp7YEEWdl4XzaHl1YaNikEcA0UTQpLB/ 5D2QOgOAZRbhCT0LbGwjuT9TjEVAdAMhPHV/KDJVOJMmEIMd+V kWX89HOzRmM3Co6A9iCVP65o/zn071wX1PJJRv9JFlmGE9bVYd Yhc2zOy6hRWsg== X-Original-Sender: cr@cosmicray.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.187 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of cr@cosmicray.co.uk) smtp.mail=cr@cosmicray.co.uk Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Just checked - I meant "preschool" and not "kindergarten" btw - neither ter= m is all that common here :-) On 17 Oct 2012, at 07:33, CosmicRay wrote: > On 17 Oct 2012, at 04:42, Robin Lee Powell = wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:43:09AM +0100, CosmicRay wrote: >>> My 17-month old has a working vocabulary of around a thousand >>> words or so=20 >>=20 >> 0.o >>=20 >> That's a bit exceptional, no? >=20 > It's one to two orders of magnitude more than her immediate peers, and we= 've got used to the nursery(/kindergarten) she attends a few hours a week e= xcitedly telling us all about her verbal prowess, but I don't know if it's = exceptional. I've heard anecdotal evidence of outliers her age who properl= y use pronouns, verb conjugations, adverbs, clauses, time references and so= on and speak in >10 word sentences. I'd call *that* exceptional. >=20 >>> but still reverts to calling her mother "mama" when she's very >>> tired or upset, it definitely isn't babbled and definitely isn't >>> something we've taught her. Interesting phenomenon that it's so >>> widespread :-) >>=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_and_papa says that it's basically >> "that's what kids say, and everybody assumes it's about them". >> Except, according to that page, the Japanese, who assume it's about >> food. I find that pretty hilarious, for some reason. >=20 > Hahaha, brilliant! So it's probably fair to assume that these names most= likely came about from babies' use of them more than (in most cultures) th= e self-labelling of them by parents first. >=20 > kozmikreis >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.