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> You're probably reading the old definition of {.ei}. Its use has changed 
> somewhat to make it more useful so that the three examples I gave are 
> now exactly what you want, that is, they aren't really about obligation.
>
Where is this new definition? I worry that I'll be misunderstood if 
everyone reads ".ei UI1 obligation attitudinal: obligation - freedom".

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