Received: from mail-yh0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:43874) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TUNW1-0004Ss-Mw; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:58 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f61.google.com with SMTP id o21sf2559818yho.16 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7YQ8llggUu6zySy4mXIEhe3CnQfe76GLwo5t076gcgA=; b=EtzaZOvTwgjywglV5Ii2lUsf4d3QlxlGbiOhjm3NAjeovPzqtR5hSs0SDoca749Run Dq1OgZ4sQGaAArzeA4akG150fJ8ARLC5YB/Wu3zKeZHpcRvB+5MrB/q7ta2ijO5fyrXI boEfnLjUrpLWLKs7I1Z/so+JoD6gWxUVaBnH/z9ggQhhYnEjtWVsT0En5k8bPxM1O6ep MrtBOpRot1sXBcEAnWkfnAwEPIMwAgvrSfKolseI49sN84XNV9fD0F/r2sFqZcxBidYq cDFSXXD0VsiLcPW63VyBa27i3C/6d1j8Sju6XTgm3R9RNDRyObxd1MN/iKFne7FAnX3P sDLw== Received: by 10.50.213.33 with SMTP id np1mr1468125igc.3.1351886806570; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.41.194 with SMTP id h2ls4550018igl.4.canary; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.66.13 with SMTP id n13mr1671191ici.24.1351886806057; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.66.13 with SMTP id n13mr1671189ici.24.1351886806040; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s9si428773igw.0.2012.11.02.13.06.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.52; Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id o6so3795416oag.11 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.240.109 with SMTP id vz13mr2207373obc.81.1351886805886; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.94.78 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:06:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80e59291-ef2d-4309-96cc-6e34f13f962e@googlegroups.com> References: <80e59291-ef2d-4309-96cc-6e34f13f962e@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:06:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {ja'e} vs {seri'a}, {semu'i} &c. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93a1581d7666304cd88ac6a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93a1581d7666304cd88ac6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Because ja'e isn't "because". For example: In 2008, the majority of electoral votes went to Obama, resulting in his becoming President of These United States. ca lo li reki'obi detri ku so'e cu'acmi cu cuxna la.obamas. ja'e lo du'u ri binxo lo gugja'a be la mergu'e On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, mudri wrote: > Can someone explain {ja'e} to me, and why I shouldn't use one of the > "because" modals in its place? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/hnwm4s4ehm4J. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --14dae93a1581d7666304cd88ac6a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because ja'e isn't "because".

For example:

= In 2008, the majority of electoral votes went to Obama, resulting in his be= coming President of These United States.

ca lo li reki'obi detri= ku so'e cu'acmi cu cuxna la.obamas. ja'e lo du'u ri binxo = lo gugja'a be la mergu'e

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone explain {ja'e} to me, and why I shouldn't use one of th= e "because" modals in its place?

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