Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:36830) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TXQtq-00074S-VE; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:20:14 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q10sf4297630yen.16 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:20:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6DPXUWZf5W7YMdZ7qTY+QpKfd6asZwpeCKCTc9I2fpA=; b=th3tyVUX2VpICqyZtYa4Yxgr/AduvBuXW6pN0amqDwrxQFNrlCd++ZoESsP67tNMqX CBJt3t8X+Zl9SaIl3LCd6ruAJ2JJ9gkU03dBp8ChkMF2eH3vd+V5WQrWCEEp0YiVfk8q 1E6UlDQP8DvwC5PJvmIDL1GRTezRvzD/oDUX4T/4JE0CC+AR3rDbIUR5aD1GFwm6jwAh xKrGqZAumulk7Yzmr6gWfRvyRjJ3WvjftUGwlEilzQiq+4iVPXK9QokMIVQkthX0Thpd jTUe/k8SFDm51JX6za4os8GkVM4bzKbBuc7SbX9Ja0XGwpWVlzVtFJp0sny/V+8nQYUv Ziwg== Received: by 10.236.178.72 with SMTP id e48mr2110394yhm.11.1352614800467; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:20:00 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.132.114 with SMTP id n78ls7977167yhi.9.gmail; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.134.232 with SMTP id s68mr10869978yhi.31.1352614798856; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.134.232 with SMTP id s68mr10869977yhi.31.1352614798845; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gg0-f173.google.com (mail-gg0-f173.google.com [209.85.161.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6si248968yhc.7.2012.11.10.22.19.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.173; Received: by mail-gg0-f173.google.com with SMTP id s5so1087792ggc.18 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.181.225 with SMTP id l61mr15973228yhm.47.1352614798729; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (98-159-200-177.scottsboro.org. [98.159.200.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g6sm2986256ani.5.2012.11.10.22.19.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:19:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Questions from a friend References: <508D9016.1020409@plasmatix.com> <509D506B.5080404@plasmatix.com> From: Devin Prater X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6172FF49-A563-4A60-81C9-3F95B50FD994@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:19:49 -0600 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / [coi rodo] I am attempting to teach a friend of mine from school how to speak Lojban. = Her native language is Russian, but she basically grew up in a Southern Eng= lish community, so her thought processes, as it seems to me, are a mixture = of the two cultures. A few days ago, I was trying to get her to see how the= diphthongs in Lojban are in fact logical, and how the C is logical in the = way it is pronounced. I think there was something else she wanted me to ask= about, but I can't remember what it is. Anyways, she basically wants to kn= ow how the c is logically phonetic, (she's gotten way too used to the Engli= sh c I'm guessing), but she did observe that the tc makes since if the c ma= kes since, but she cannot grasp the need for the c to have the sh sound=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.