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[98.159.200.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z65sm3508478yhe.22.2012.11.11.00.16.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:16:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Questions from a friend References: <508D9016.1020409@plasmatix.com> <509D506B.5080404@plasmatix.com> <6172FF49-A563-4A60-81C9-3F95B50FD994@gmail.com> <3abc54a4-874d-4be6-93b5-3263022a36df@googlegroups.com> From: Devin Prater X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: <3abc54a4-874d-4be6-93b5-3263022a36df@googlegroups.com> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:16:13 -0600 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-571DF17C-21F3-4619-AEDE-693677386E5E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-571DF17C-21F3-4619-AEDE-693677386E5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I will forward your email to her, if that's alright. Sent from my iPod with gmail On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:12, la gleki wrote: On Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:20:00 AM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wrote: >=20 > [coi rodo]=20 > I am attempting to teach a friend of mine from school how to speak Lojban= . Her native language is Russian coi la .devin.preitr =20 Short note. For Russians we have a separate group http://vk.com/menli.bangu= . Alternatively, you can give them my e-mail gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com All= the gismu have been translated to Russian by far (a separate Russian dicti= onary is http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku.ru/badna). Cmavo are almost al= l translated, the Wave lessons will be completed soon (according to what I = was told by the translator). > , but she basically grew up in a Southern English community, so her thoug= ht processes, as it seems to me, are a mixture of the two cultures. A few d= ays ago, I was trying to get her to see how the diphthongs in Lojban are in= fact logical, and how the C is logical in the way it is pronounced. I thin= k there was something else she wanted me to ask about, but I can't remember= what it is. Anyways, she basically wants to know how the c is logically ph= onetic, (she's gotten way too used to the English c I'm guessing), but she = did observe that the tc makes since if the c makes since, but she cannot gr= asp the need for the c to have the sh sound --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/1hO0OZ7UigIJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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Ok, I will forward your email to h= er, if that's alright.

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On Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:20:00 AM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wrote:[coi rodo]
I am attempting to teach a friend of mine from school how to speak Lojb= an. Her native language is Russian

 co= i la .devin.preitr  
Short note. For Russians we have a= separate group http://vk.com/menli.b= angu. Alternatively, you can give them my e-mail gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com All the gismu have b= een translated to Russian by far (a separate Russian dictionary is http://vlasisku.lojban.or= g/vlasisku.ru/badna). Cmavo are almost all translated, the Wave lessons= will be completed soon (according to what I was told by the translator).

, but she b= asically grew up in a Southern English community, so her thought processes,= as it seems to me, are a mixture of the two cultures. A few days ago, I wa= s trying to get her to see how the diphthongs in Lojban are in fact logical= , and how the C is logical in the way it is pronounced. I think there was s= omething else she wanted me to ask about, but I can't remember what it is. = Anyways, she basically wants to know how the c is logically phonetic, (she'= s gotten way too used to the English c I'm guessing), but she did observe t= hat the tc makes since if the c makes since, but she cannot grasp the need = for the c to have the sh sound

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