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[208.81.237.191]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id j36si468419anp.0.2012.11.19.16.52.44; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of park.annie@asb.gaggle.net designates 208.81.237.191 as permitted sender) client-ip=208.81.237.191; Received: (qmail 18484 invoked by uid 358); 20 Nov 2012 00:52:37 -0000 Received: from [10.0.32.2] (HELO mx5.gaggle.net) (10.0.32.2) by mx1.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:52:37 -0800 Received: from [98.81.78.16] (HELO [10.0.1.6]) (98.81.78.16) (smtp-auth username Park.Annie@asb.gaggle.net, mechanism plain) by mx5.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:52:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] c and sh References: From: Annie X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7478C538-A6F0-4E4D-862D-FA82E4EE7112@asb.gaggle.net> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:52:33 -0600 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on mx5.gaggle.net X-GOMS-Validated-Recipients: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gaggle-Info: *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. 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Sent from my iPod On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gma= il.com> wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Annie <park.ann= ie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote: I have another question. I've heard that the c in Lojban is the sh sound. H= ow is that logicalhis First of all, the reason why Lojban in a logical language is because the gr= ammar is based on predicate logic. Beyond that, very little of Lojban is ho= w it is because of some underlying logic. That said, the reason why cy. is pronounced "sh" is simple. In English, c i= s pronounced in two ways; in the way s is, and in the k is. Since Lojban, u= nlike English, is a phoenetic language, that means that in Lojban, somethin= g with the sound of "s" is always spelled with s, and something with the so= und of "k" is always spelled with a k, which means that "c" as it is in Eng= lish doesn't exist. The creators gave cy. the "sh" sound for the same reaso= n it gave xy. the "kh" sound, didn't include "q", "w", or "h", and made "y"= always a vowel- to remove overlap between letterals and make a large varie= ty of sounds be typed with only one letteral. Sent from my iPod *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to loj= ban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den= . -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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That makes sence.

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On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Nov 1= 9, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
I have another question. I've heard that the c in Lojban is the sh sound. H= ow is that logicalhis

First of all, the reason why= Lojban in a logical language is because the grammar is based on predicate = logic. Beyond that, very little of Lojban is how it is because of some unde= rlying logic.

That said, the reason why cy. is pronounced "sh" is simple. In English,= c is pronounced in two ways; in the way s is, and in the k is. Since Lojba= n, unlike English, is a phoenetic language, that means that in Lojban, some= thing with the sound of "s" is always spelled with s, and something with th= e sound of "k" is always spelled with a k, which means that "c" as it is in= English doesn't exist. The creators gave cy. the "sh" sound for the same r= eason it gave xy. the "kh" sound, didn't include "q", "w", or "h", and made= "y" always a vowel- to remove overlap between letterals and make a large v= ariety of sounds be typed with only one letteral.
 
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