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Well, a minor detail: {me'o denpa bu} refers to the actual symbol, but in
the common IRC parlance, there're a few ways to actually refer to the
concept of the "pause" (which isn't actually necessarily a pause; the
glottal stop is just a sound like any other, but it has the alternative of
being substituted for by silence). Among others, there's {lo me denpa bu}
which has the obvious issue of {denpa bu} referring to something ('cause
letterals can be pronouns). {lo me la'e me'o denpa bu} but that's just too
verbose for anyone to ever say. That being said, the way that I advocate,
which is also advocated by some others, is {lo depybu'i} which makes
surprising use of {bu}'s rafsi, -bu'i-.
.i mi'e la tsani mu'o


On 20 November 2012 16:38, Ross Ogilvie <ross@rossogilvie.id.au> wrote:

> A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause in
> speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have
> finished saying a name.
>
> English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate
> sentences in lojban is to use the word "i". Because it's a word beginning
> with a vowel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. eg
>
> ti mlatu .i ta gerku
> This is a cat. That is a dog
>
> But it is the word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences.
>
> The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie "the pause letter"
>
> -- Ross
>
>
> On 21 November 2012 11:09, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
>
>> It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would
>> you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?
>>
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Well, a minor detail: {me&#39;o denpa bu} refers to the actual symbol, but =
in the common IRC parlance, there&#39;re a few ways to actually refer to th=
e concept of the &quot;pause&quot; (which isn&#39;t actually necessarily a =
pause; the glottal stop is just a sound like any other, but it has the alte=
rnative of being substituted for by silence). Among others, there&#39;s {lo=
 me denpa bu} which has the obvious issue of {denpa bu} referring to someth=
ing (&#39;cause letterals can be pronouns). {lo me la&#39;e me&#39;o denpa =
bu} but that&#39;s just too verbose for anyone to ever say. That being said=
, the way that I advocate, which is also advocated by some others, is {lo d=
epybu&#39;i} which makes surprising use of {bu}&#39;s rafsi, -bu&#39;i-.<br=
>

<div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20 November 2012 16:38, Ross Ogilvie <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ross@rossogilvie.id.au" target=3D"_blank">r=
oss@rossogilvie.id.au</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A full stop in lojban represents a pause in =
speech. You need to pause in speech to show that the next word begins with =
a vowel, or that you have finished saying a name.<br>

<br>English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate sen=
tences in lojban is to use the word &quot;i&quot;. Because it&#39;s a word =
beginning with a vowel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. =
eg<br>



<br>ti mlatu .i ta gerku<br>This is a cat. That is a dog<br><br>But it is t=
he word &quot;i&quot;, not the full stop that is separating the sentences.<=
br><br>The word in lojban for the full stop is &quot;denpabu&quot;, ie &quo=
t;the pause letter&quot;<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>



<br>-- Ross</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On 21 November 2012 11:09, Annie <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:park.annie@asb.gaggle.net" target=3D"_blank">park.an=
nie@asb.gaggle.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

It seems like there&#39;s a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would =
you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?<br=
>
<br>
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