Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:56372) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TbFqu-0000mP-PT; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:58 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f61.google.com with SMTP id fs19sf2155524vbb.16 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Xg86katV2yqw9oTBvUhD1VZjMGtdg7GHR2ZAIuWgQYY=; b=VALyCCSFahSFuopLmaOEzxOQZEeQRellwOLRax6mVPmqHSTTQBvYhTVcygSvtQCTnD qjxLsix3PribLkxVqqovrdgMsEFmA/rQZOkbgqZuOZHd2KsoTaUbuVxUiRpTlw/btAkC m5Ekcc6Y+QBTl9ztLXdXfPIQtABgfamN9H4aWfLiX9mx3pRmzuQT9AdTs6uZBgZHf+aw rP7/YERY8Je6NShflTcKHcaDC4kzGGudhiMwriYxQv1O5a44s9Jz+aNV46mdhNZJZQPh 76VwJpaJjCXZfNYlL6BZRXDx6jwI0Yp8JaTp05zreb8uE+6WVGLpZMfFAHkajdtlDrGr 3igg== Received: by 10.50.135.66 with SMTP id pq2mr321655igb.3.1353525645433; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.153.201 with SMTP id vi9ls5554401igb.40.gmail; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr7783264icb.24.1353525644762; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr7783263icb.24.1353525644744; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f49.google.com (mail-oa0-f49.google.com [209.85.219.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wu4si49158igb.3.2012.11.21.11.20.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.49; Received: by mail-oa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id l10so8582628oag.8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.177.100 with SMTP id cp4mr17485524obc.71.1353525644574; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.38.227 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0008395A-7118-4574-819E-2C5EDB2ED45F@asb.gaggle.net> References: <41C793FE-DF9E-4814-82D9-353E740E390D@asb.gaggle.net> <0008395A-7118-4574-819E-2C5EDB2ED45F@asb.gaggle.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Fullstop From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f838d9f3d40cc04cf063f34 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f838d9f3d40cc04cf063f34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No, not periods in the middle of words. You've seen commas ("slaka bu" in lojban), which are syllable breaks to, for example, di-dipthongize vowel clusters that appear in a name. For example, lo,is is "LOH-is" as opposed to "lois" which rhymes with the Englice "choice" --gejyspa On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie wrote: > All that makes since, the full stop separating one word from a word that > begins a vowel and all. However, I've seen it in the middle of words > before. What's that for? > > Sent from my iPod > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Ross Ogilvie wrote: > > A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause in > speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have > finished saying a name. > > English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate > sentences in lojban is to use the word "i". Because it's a word beginning > with a vowel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. eg > > ti mlatu .i ta gerku > This is a cat. That is a dog > > But it is the word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences. > > The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie "the pause letter" > > -- Ross > > On 21 November 2012 11:09, Annie wrote: > >> It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would >> you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word? >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > > > > > > *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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=A0 No, not periods in the middle of words. =A0You've = seen commas ("slaka bu" in lojban), which are syllable breaks to,= for example, di-dipthongize vowel clusters that appear in a name. =A0For e= xample, lo,is is "LOH-is" as opposed to "lois" which rh= ymes with the Englice "choice"
=A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Wed, N= ov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
All that makes since,= the full stop separating one word from a word that begins a vowel and all.= However, I've seen it in the middle of words before. What's that f= or?

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 20, 2012,= at 6:38 PM, Ross Ogilvie <ross@rossogilvie.id.au> wrote:

A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause = in speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have = finished saying a name.

English uses a full stop to separate sentenc= es. The way to separate sentences in lojban is to use the word "i"= ;. Because it's a word beginning with a vowel, it is normally written w= ith a full stop before it. eg

ti mlatu .i ta gerku
This is a cat. That is a dog

But it is t= he word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences.<= br>
The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie &quo= t;the pause letter"

-- Ross

On 21 November 2012 11:09, An= nie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would = you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?
Sent from my iPod

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