Received: from mail-da0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:56056) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tc3La-0004me-IX; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:55 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f61.google.com with SMTP id z8sf3336248dad.16 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EcB2t8IZ14kgksubS/qoXof7CE+zcpPqeOwFQrglQA8=; b=wuvLc2kR0a+83RdbH5zNpLdJWeqRvgyWYHc2u6Zb7EwKBfeiBTczgJU3gcOlvfUpt+ 3HVAYXDrbGQtfNEGPp+wvQqvS5oIH45Kb1OnL/D5y8v/QUzigl8WsmAmhA8pzt/zy+HA vgsShEeJ9ZXc7bruKlmetaP9tNGqi9+DY9J5+1t/aQSdQYVo3+8cUtMD+mL6IasBs6FJ C3pDs8vxqo4eiRG2Bh5Ok7/jMyY7BoKp34eDE8rYCTTpf7o9DfBXPA1hO+Rx2rGKFbZa QycVbUJ75bDQwXPykQC17wdSzmMRU0dJoZ3VDXl6nM7Xv8X4sEVwXZ9sPEdDsoma/BTW fFog== Received: by 10.49.128.233 with SMTP id nr9mr869660qeb.27.1353715903894; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.132.105 with SMTP id ot9ls580751qeb.20.gmail; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.116.34 with SMTP id jt2mr825067qeb.38.1353715903538; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:11:43 -0800 (PST) From: mudri To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <1aeeea0e-aea5-4faa-9036-bea624f165b4@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: memrise simplified gismu {dukse} vs {zmadu} definition MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_141_17889250.1353715903164" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_141_17889250.1353715903164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can I add something? I notice that {jibni} has been given a simplified translation that reads something like "similar, close in properties". For a while, I guessed at {simsa}, since it seems to fit that translation remarkably well (better, if I've not misunderstood). In fact, what is the difference between these two? On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:40:40 UTC+1, kamisori wrote: > > Hello, i have quite alot trouble keeping those two apart. > I propose to change {zmadu}s definition to "x1 is more than or exceeds x2 > in x3 by amount x4" hereby it would be easier to memorise its meaning, > because to me the similarity of "x1 exceeds or is more than x2 in x3 by > amount x4" to "x1 is an excess of x2 by standard x3" is hindering my > learning effort. > > What do you guys think? > > .u'i On the other hand, of course i could simply try to read the > definition more carefully, but due to the timers i always feel like i'm in > a hurry... > > mlatu > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/tCQu1VenSFwJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_141_17889250.1353715903164 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can I add something? I notice that {jibni} has been given a simplified tran= slation that reads something like "similar, close in properties". For a whi= le, I guessed at {simsa}, since it seems to fit that translation remarkably= well (better, if I've not misunderstood). In fact, what is the difference = between these two?

On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:40:40 UTC+1, kamiso= ri wrote:
Hello, i have quite = alot trouble keeping those two apart.
I propose to change {zmadu}s defi= nition to "x1 is more than or exceeds x2 in x3 by amount x4" hereby it woul= d be easier to memorise its meaning, because to me the similarity of "x1 ex= ceeds or is more than x2 in x3 by amount x4" to "x1 is an excess of x2= by standard x3" is hindering my learning effort.

What do you guys think?

.u'i O= n the other hand, of course i could simply try to read the definition more = carefully, but due to the timers i always feel like i'm in a hurry...

mlatu

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