On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, ianek <janek37= @gmail.com> wrote:

Unless I'm wrong, {lo mi kumfa} and {lo kumfa pe mi} have exactly the same meaning.

They do. {lo mi kumfa} is literally = just shorthand for {lo kumfa pe mi}.
=A0

There are also other ways, but those listed by remod are the most
important.
And, you misspelled "sumti" as "su,ti". No need to conf= use Annie more
than necessary (zo'o)
Capital V in {ko'V} and {fo'V} means any vowel of a, e, i, o, u
(there's a total of ten third person pro-sumti, not counting
letterals).

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 24 Lis, 22:36, Remo Dentato <rd= ent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For possessive you have many option.
>
> 1. using {pe} to indicate an association: "my room (where I sleep= )" -> { lo
> kumfa pe mi }
> 2. using {po} to indicate possession: "my room (that I own)"= -> =A0{ lo kumfa
> po mi }
> 3. using one of the personal pro-sumti: "my room (in an unspecifi= ed sense"
> -> { lo mi kunfa }
> 4. using the dedicated su,ti place like in "my father" ->= { lo patfu be mi }
>
> =A0The role of pronouns is played, in Lojban, by the pro-sumti. Note t= hat
> they are not exactly the same! It's better not to try to translate= English
> concepts directly into Lojban. It's much better to understand how = things
> work in Lojban and then try to use them to express what you want to sa= y.
>
> =A0If you're just asking for personal pronouns the first and secon= d person is
> covered by:
>
> =A0{mi} -> me (the speaker)
> =A0{do} -> you =A0(the listener)
> =A0{ko} -> you (imperative)
> =A0{do'o} -> you and others but not me
> =A0{mi'o} -> you and me but not others
> =A0{ma'a} -> me, you and others
> =A0{mi'a} -> me and others but not you
>
> For third person one uses the assignable pro-sumti {ko'V} and {fo&= #39;V} or a
> the first letter of the sumti you want to refer to.
>
> I saw a dog. it was running -> {mi viska lo gerku goi ko'a .i k= o'a bajra}
> I saw a dog. it was running -> {mi viska lo gerku .i gy. bajra}
>
> co'o mu'o mi'e la remod
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> On Sat, Nov 24, 20= 12 at 10:04 PM, Annie <park= .an...@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
> > How do you make a word possessive in Lojban? Also, what are the p= ronouns
> > in Lojban?
>
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