Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:59528) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdOFW-0008PY-9K; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:43:10 -0800 Received: by mail-bk0-f61.google.com with SMTP id j5sf4460674bkw.16 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DvLIINWL5QtpaWxdAeNEBWq7cZSBDjH30GYSG+oQr0A=; b=YKsG9KbkjVSw9062VdouEgPPbsPXMfPNp6AJrX434OwPs9S9ctezZ6JQXnDP4kxash 3XG0pOo0g+1uMNJ36Hiqr2n1mVutUAwWOYbaxPYvnyo7lQpFXtvJ1FUx4fuAq/0bnxBr J/w+Q0eY93XeihlXNY2IOOjzlMkHk5gcFGtoqvz9kuIsNINd+0+ag1HpXDKdVjDgkRKJ 65jmbcSg/waPS6lgZjWf9HTQt5SiQL9ocXUUMATxTMqwucQst/lJ7zv4HgzlhcYZRuTU kST0kcbsO+H5w/ANkdK9aR/3ATrm4KyCnWdgE0jb30Xoy37NleEhqRWpGwib3GVHXCUw kU2w== Received: by 10.180.19.74 with SMTP id c10mr2527200wie.2.1354034578396; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.101.4 with SMTP id fc4ls1954812wib.41.canary; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.8 with SMTP id cy8mr2062158wib.1.1354034577844; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.8 with SMTP id cy8mr2062156wib.1.1354034577821; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu17si146554wid.0.2012.11.27.08.42.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jesyspa@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.169; Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq12so3574251wib.4 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.103.39 with SMTP id ft7mr24521484wib.15.1354034577694; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.238.206 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <89693c69-382d-4dc3-91ce-52cc179914a4@googlegroups.com> References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <2C9188D0-A03F-4717-898E-58D986BCCA32@asb.gaggle.net> <2046694.Jy3urARx3F@caracal> <89693c69-382d-4dc3-91ce-52cc179914a4@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:42:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] zo braile From: Anton Golov To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jesyspa@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jesyspa@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jesyspa@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442811604602b04cf7cbe5f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0442811604602b04cf7cbe5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing wrong with fu'ivla. That'd be something like {bau,r,breil}, right? On 27 November 2012 16:45, la gleki wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:14:56 PM UTC+4, Anton Golov wrote: >> >> braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't obey the gismu format (CCVC= V >> or CVCCV). What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch and >> language? > > > but what's wrong with fu'ivla that is besides easily recognisable? > >> >> >> On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> On Monday, November 26, 2012 21:58:55 Annie wrote: >>> > How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are you talking abo= ut >>> with >>> > the braille stuff? >>> >>> It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronounced as three vowels: a as in >>> father, u as >>> in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because >>> otherwise >>> "au" would be pronounced as one vowel. >>> >>> =ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'm not sure= of >>> the >>> place structure. >>> >>> Pierre >>> -- >>> Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.**com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginne...@** >>> googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den >>> . >>> >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/VeASrNYuT0wJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d0442811604602b04cf7cbe5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing wrong with fu'ivla. =A0That'd be something like {bau,r,brei= l}, right?


On = 27 November 2012 16:45, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:


On Tuesday, Novemb= er 27, 2012 5:14:56 PM UTC+4, Anton Golov wrote:
braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't obey the gismu format = (CCVCV or CVCCV). =A0What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch = and language?

but what's wrong wi= th fu'ivla that is besides easily recognisable?=A0


On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Monday, Nove= mber 26, 2012 21:58:55 Annie wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are yo= u talking about with
> the braille stuff?

It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronoun= ced as three vowels: a as in father, u as
in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because= otherwise
"au" would be pronounced as one vowel.

=ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'= m not sure of the
place structure.

Pierre
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