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Sent from my iPod On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie wrote: How can pronouns be so complicated that you have to have a whole chapter on them? It only seems complicated because you are thinking about them in terms of pronouns. In lojban there are no "nouns" and, hence, no "pronouns". Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier. Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to "an apple", {mi} is a sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko'a} is a sumti that refers to whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to something that is close to me and I'm pointing at and so on. This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to make direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language). 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what do you d if a word has, for e= xample, more than one x1 or whatever?

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie wrote:
How can pronouns be so complicate= d that you have to have a whole chapter on them?

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It only seems complicated because you are thinking about th= em in terms of pronouns. 
In lojban there are no "nouns" and= , hence, no "pronouns".
Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier.
Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to "an apple", {= mi} is a sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko'a} is a sumti that r= efers to whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to something that is cl= ose to me and I'm pointing at  and so on.
This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to = make direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language).= It may be useful at the beginning but should not be talen too far.

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