Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:42324) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tda0N-0004cY-9w; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:20 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id p16sf4584670vcq.16 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pn9/gB9ES/lUVzP7+cwCIxbCyrE4tQ93NWEdMYnq3RE=; b=NDAvKkZPL8Rlk39MltJBba2eKcc2tHVaqh0asDTnAijv3jkeWKbWB0cJNMm9GOaiCY jo1CSapdbAvkXw4IllrAFZx/zsaAvZ8fThBXIBZo2LSUml4Zenig4W0Lm8qRrktjeUSr /iaLxlputSIlnJjgW16nR5RfGbPNogqcZe6/BMj/b+YkcdUGhrHkCTfbOGoqhPZ8O8p4 anmwLJZI+G1rnlITxQ6Pj45W5ajFJAhVCgiZe3cBhDaLI29wxlJAUrm3LOEh2nY4jLiy 1h6q633Pjs5WInEWS1BkGAf3YfuqmRke0AW4YpVJvocCCSB2ql5FuTILVLYG7IByDDGl LzcA== Received: by 10.49.108.131 with SMTP id hk3mr3666597qeb.15.1354079768421; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.104.110 with SMTP id gd14ls2424228qeb.64.gmail; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.81.107 with SMTP id l71mr12349526yhe.18.1354079767029; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.81.107 with SMTP id l71mr12349525yhe.18.1354079767019; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h50si1448322yhi.3.2012.11.27.21.16.06; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C8721619 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:16:06 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Possessives Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:16:07 -0500 Message-ID: <2976270.MzV4NbqH6W@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3AD9ACF2-9875-4BC8-86C1-65D29ADB8226@asb.gaggle.net> <1813213.3IIWNj8jIR@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 18:35:18 Michael Turniansky wrote: > Which does bring in an interesting philosophic question (which maybe > Annie was alluding to): If you used vo'a in that sentence, what would it > refer to? la djan? le bruna be la lizbet (which is what I assume you meant > to write, not "brata") or both? ("fa la djan. klama le ckule fa le bruna pe > la lizbet. lo zdani be vo'a") But that's outside the scope of a beginner's > list. Yes of course "bruna". "brata" is Tok Pisin. I consider the referent of "vo'a" in that sentence unclear. Pierre -- ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.