Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:35715) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TeAnQ-0000CQ-Q4; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:28 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf10722025qca.16 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ks0QINL3QglMFw/1rHPnZs+vv05e1XCcqVHs7e1WPOA=; b=OtddS4Mq1RC3lXMhrfKI72THlHhRvGShGE6MrRrxYuB2jaKTTDaUg0QzmANfhwN6/C JwvY5eSHCdPDmcQleHt31tRdliFMdR0XGeIklPPPWH8chUDnB6NLO08Izi8LYKZ1fbF8 HvcSYKjJ43xkfW+cf9wRz4lBdlqb2XI9PP1oJnFmU70tKM1k5YIsXrDVdFwsDh9K9tDD rtVaZjgZxK9S1BXx0qPUhnLQecizcLF+phZH/p5X2ePUIwLUPYSa3uMp6VZnj3GmPpF+ yZNv6Hk6xLrGNeoB2v0HW67psz4+MblfY996As96bIXANXYTodeEgZ50LZ0z+58+aTrJ mnaQ== Received: by 10.49.94.99 with SMTP id db3mr3440975qeb.2.1354221194195; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.18.131 with SMTP id w3ls4172651qed.45.gmail; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.82.202 with SMTP id o50mr15022353yhe.30.1354221193552; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.82.202 with SMTP id o50mr15022352yhe.30.1354221193542; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r10si97010ann.1.2012.11.29.12.33.13; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963942AB07 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:33:12 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] zo braile Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:33:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4264971.qkT2t5vedG@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <50B54110.6060208@plasmatix.com> References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <50B54110.6060208@plasmatix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 23:39:12 selpa'i wrote: > I think that's good. I thought about this today and my main concern was > whether or not this would cause problems with saying "I am studying > braille" or "I like braille" etc because > > mi nelci lo braile > I like things written in braille. > > But the intended meaning can easily be achieved by making a lujvo > "brailyle'u" ("x1 is a braille letter/symbol in braille > alphabet/character-set x2 for encoding x3 representing x4") or something > like that. > > lo brailyle'u mi melbi > Braille is beautiful to me. > > What do you think? For "I am studying braille" you could use an abstractor: "mi tadni lo su'u braile" or "mi tadni lo si'o braile". Or you could say "la .brail." (which could also refer to the inventor of the system). Pierre -- gau do li'i co'e kei do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.