Received: from mail-pa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.220.61]:62380) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TeWAW-0006r2-8g; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:43 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id bg2sf795255pad.16 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=KdsadziRlb3VTO68ytyecHiP27MALQ2bb2Jmjp17v6U=; b=qSk5Jqq6vda5vSK2W3ncxATfVr8LiCK3MvK7s2xQ71yt9xt5It3hv/CTwmxXZHd1Ru mBqf82BFHT5YYCmQmcokPSiMWncf9T5slMfewnqunshDbnJIsaSETQKN7B8S7JYw6c9K wKma8VCL2LgrQW7lPo1TZoIQOtr6R64Im9I1/pN9sPXJQlZEcfNXzPdkZ3wHQW70Jjav HoanlNb/j0w+WSZqTkk2AvScKqm9iRqZ32PYA5hAcvHpAjsSkZSDvSwY9jRbfxmcuqzv x8vhhUc0sSZvtnNnqdPzvKn+BwNDdhyiGZxu6KPM0TxkwLiY5osBVGjL7cOSKs9jq6Er OeNQ== Received: by 10.50.37.232 with SMTP id b8mr2506016igk.4.1354303348874; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.42.169 with SMTP id p9ls47476igl.37.gmail; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.7.132 with SMTP id oo4mr1893492icb.0.1354303347558; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.7.132 with SMTP id oo4mr1893491icb.0.1354303347525; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ul6si9690igb.2.2012.11.30.11.22.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.223.177; Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id k13so1417953iea.8 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.151.238 with SMTP id ut14mr30133639igb.72.1354303347379; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.194.193 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3AD9ACF2-9875-4BC8-86C1-65D29ADB8226@asb.gaggle.net> <1813213.3IIWNj8jIR@caracal> <2976270.MzV4NbqH6W@caracal> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:22:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Possessives From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3b9f7df04c1404cfbb51a9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f3b9f7df04c1404cfbb51a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM, wrote: > How does {se / te / ve / xe} affect {vo'a}? > [...[ > I guess my question boils down to "Does {se/te/ve/xe} change that which is > called x1? Yes, it does. The x1 of the selbri { prami } is the lover, the x1 of the selbri {se prami} is the loved one and {vo'a} always refers to x1. remod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e89a8f3b9f7df04c1404cfbb51a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, N= ov 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM, <hugesmile@hotmail.com> wrote:<= br>
How does {se / te / ve / xe} affect {vo'a}?
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I guess my ques= tion boils down to "Does {se/te/ve/xe} change that which is called x1?=

Yes, it does. The x1 of the selbri=A0 { prami } is th= e lover, the x1 of the selbri {se prami} is the loved one and {vo'a} al= ways refers to x1.

remod


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