Received: from mail-ie0-f189.google.com ([209.85.223.189]:44263) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TeZ5z-0007su-Mo; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:30:15 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf852111ieb.16 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hrrv6WHvRKbsxmnEv65hC6qmfiKpoKNOQ8iPdQY6iwM=; b=GgyfFyYMniHHh22676wPuUTKKkintoGzm7n4cdvL9GrrutsCwxQ+dv6ZTFoP3PMnMQ j2FiK6FUFi6Jf+NOD+ToA2KhYpVtChSISdKLM4fL3tvE3G9KKviasl+hX/9QtXIS8D84 B+zIQVtC5QcNij4kYYP8Ek5IOcmRVmCR6V8x+iyuYJiccpgwpzdj2XTaYQJuh4rVubXy pFOk//4UrX3nfttIm8d9DLLhNXP3/sXzZ/Uq6CyAYgWB4rHQyFLezTWNQR7iA+kSpbB0 hJxQOBnIIgbRmXCLYRTXKnOICFDrga+DWQ8cup1Lzk8zvNYaFF7da2t+xDlI2iOimMKZ NKIA== Received: by 10.49.128.233 with SMTP id nr9mr817441qeb.27.1354314600935; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:30:00 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.129.67 with SMTP id nu3ls610638qeb.8.gmail; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.85.106 with SMTP id g10mr1054425vez.2.1354314599981; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.85.106 with SMTP id g10mr1054424vez.2.1354314599966; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13si1074302vdh.0.2012.11.30.14.29.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.180; Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p16so154736vcq.25 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.208.141 with SMTP id gc13mr2293464vcb.55.1354314599666; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.233 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:29:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <50B54110.6060208@plasmatix.com> <4264971.qkT2t5vedG@caracal> From: Jacob Errington Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] zo braile To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517a674a092ac04cfbdf0f6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec517a674a092ac04cfbdf0f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 30 November 2012 11:33, jongausib wrote: > brailyle'u is not a valid lujvo. You can't have a fu'ivla and a gismu as a > veljvo. In that case you'll have to use "zei". > Actually, {braile} being of the form CCVVCV is one of the forms to which (even) the CLL assigns what it calls a fu'ivla rafsi. Maybe you recall the example of {tci'ile} that it uses to demonstrate a use-case of this proposal? Regardless, as selpa'i mentioned, the PEG gives a rafsi to *every* fu'ivla (even {.irci}, for example). That being said, we could create a lujvo for "irc bot" {.irci'yzmi}. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec517a674a092ac04cfbdf0f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30 November 2012 11:33, jongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
brailyle'u is not a valid lujvo. You can't have a fu'ivla and a= gismu as a veljvo. In that case you'll have to use "zei".

Actually, {braile} being of the form CCVV= CV is one of the forms to which (even) the CLL assigns what it calls a fu&#= 39;ivla rafsi. Maybe you recall the example of {tci'ile} that it uses t= o demonstrate a use-case of this proposal?

Regardless, as selpa'i mentioned, the PEG gives a r= afsi to *every* fu'ivla (even {.irci}, for example). That being said, w= e could create a lujvo for "irc bot" {.irci'yzmi}.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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