Received: from mail-ia0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:52974) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tem5U-00029I-LS; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:34 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f189.google.com with SMTP id b35sf1303786iac.16 for ; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UIIhKcsq9ntvhpFp7RmLDitVwV4i0A8t/iubckL9SRk=; b=k2bdTZcdC8nMGR7CSMNVGKK3ynlvFtgBBvNlVdZZ5uWCoAYE5RJb5JnzSFdnSDIBxK Ptuk+MClKoLUYIIPs6ZG2wLv/E75iARlEXL3qVtRqkpafsn2cUIuX4/WclMyrE6CMP1y 5J51injybdvaScxpEinmk+o/5FOqWUyL4gzVdyDzUq1k4va1zkRirlevGwwv17G4roY/ CcvTO1nyRDjNmg3GN3UGA1ojP3jKp7fcGQxBeUj6pw7rLnOtBc5zZxeKdb0HGCDuTfNK mV52hiwOjbnKpzTfJYyFI464STECluY33w1E5hJ+bv+akyuPEBRHJq5gWS3iBSJUI7gb QBTg== Received: by 10.49.116.139 with SMTP id jw11mr1133334qeb.12.1354364541345; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.85.193 with SMTP id j1ls582872qez.71.gmail; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.108.131 with SMTP id hk3mr1128038qeb.15.1354364540993; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 04:22:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 04:22:20 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <33272af0-7522-44d7-a040-e451bf851595@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Why no "about" brivla? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_577_27499933.1354364540224" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_577_27499933.1354364540224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:09:16 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote: > > This is just what {se srana} or {selra'a} is. > mi na birti. srana - x1 pertains to/is germane/relevant to/concerns/is related/associated with/is about x2. Where is "topic/theme" here? > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On 1 Gru, 08:13, la gleki wrote: > > cfika > > x1 is a work of fiction *about plot or theme x2* by author x3 > > ciksi > > x1 explains *x2* to x3 with explanation x4 > > cilre > > x1 learns x2 *about x3* from x4 by method > > ctuca > > x1 teaches to x2 ideas x3 *about subject x4* by method x5 > > djuno > > x1 knows fact x2 *about x*3 by epistemology x4 > > draci > > x1 is a drama or play* about x2* by x3 for audience x4 with actors x4 > > facki > > x1 discovers x2 *about x3* > > jdice > > x1 makes decision x2 *about x3* > > jimpe > > x1 understands x2 *about x3* > > morji > > x1 remembers x2 *about subject x3* > > > > And my question is > > > > Why memorising so many places when they could be replaced by a BAI > formed > > from a hypothetical brivla > > > > broda = x1 is the theme/topic of x2; x2 is about x1 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/EfSAhbjtG1AJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_577_27499933.1354364540224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, December 1, 2012 4:09:16 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote:This is just what {se srana} or {selr= a'a} is.

mi na birti.
srana - x1 pert= ains to/is germane/relevant to/concerns/is related/associated with/is about= x2.

Where is "topic/theme"  here?
=

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 1 Gru, 08:13, la gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wro= te:
> cfika
>   x1 is a work of fiction *about plot or theme x2* by author = x3
> ciksi
> x1 explains *x2* to x3 with explanation x4
> cilre
> x1 learns x2 *about x3* from x4 by method
> ctuca
> x1 teaches to x2 ideas x3 *about subject x4* by method x5
> djuno
> x1 knows fact x2 *about x*3 by epistemology x4
> draci
> x1 is a drama or play* about x2* by x3 for audience x4 with actors= x4
> facki
> x1 discovers x2 *about x3*
> jdice
> x1 makes decision x2 *about x3*
> jimpe
> x1 understands x2 *about x3*
> morji
> x1 remembers x2 *about subject x3*
>
> And my question is
>
> Why memorising so many places when they could be replaced by a BAI= formed
> from a hypothetical brivla
>
> broda =3D x1 is the theme/topic of x2; x2 is about x1

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