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What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch and >> language? > > > but what's wrong with fu'ivla that is besides easily recognisable? > >> >> >> On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> On Monday, November 26, 2012 21:58:55 Annie wrote: >>> > How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are you talking abo= ut >>> with >>> > the braille stuff? >>> >>> It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronounced as three vowels: a as in >>> father, u as >>> in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because >>> otherwise >>> "au" would be pronounced as one vowel. >>> >>> =ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'm not sure= of >>> the >>> place structure. >>> >>> Pierre >>> -- >>> Don't buy a French car in Holland. 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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
I know this might be a late response, but braile can= 't be a gismu because it has more than 5 letters.

As already mentioned, it's a fu'ivla.
=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sent from my iPod
<= br>On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:32 PM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote= :



On Tuesday, November 27, 2= 012 5:14:56 PM UTC+4, Anton Golov wrote:
braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't obey the gismu format = (CCVCV or CVCCV). =A0What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch = and language?

but what's wrong with fu&= #39;ivla that is besides easily recognisable?=A0


On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat <ph...= @bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Monday, November 26, 2012 21:58:55 A= nnie wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are yo= u talking about with
> the braille stuff?

It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronoun= ced as three vowels: a as in father, u as
in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because= otherwise
"au" would be pronounced as one vowel.

=ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'= m not sure of the
place structure.

Pierre
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Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

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