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[208.81.237.190]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id t49si688641yhc.1.2012.12.02.07.12.05; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of park.annie@asb.gaggle.net designates 208.81.237.190 as permitted sender) client-ip=208.81.237.190; Received: (qmail 675 invoked by uid 358); 2 Dec 2012 15:12:04 -0000 Received: from [10.0.32.2] (HELO web2.gaggle.net) (10.0.32.2) by mx10.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:12:04 -0800 Received: from [98.81.96.249] (HELO [10.0.1.6]) (98.81.96.249) (smtp-auth username Park.Annie@asb.gaggle.net, mechanism plain) by mx11.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 16:19:12 -0800 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] zo braile References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <1A410B81-C6A3-4DF8-A4AF-EDD43B679304@asb.gaggle.net> <1823234.qgcYMaYQpT@caracal> From: Annie X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: <1823234.qgcYMaYQpT@caracal> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 16:19:09 -0800 (PST) To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Gaggle-Info: *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. 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Sent from my iPod On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday, December 01, 2012 14:40:29 Annie wrote: >> What are veljvo and rafci? > > A veljvo is the compound phrase that a compound word is made from. For > instance, the veljvo of "larlermorna" is "larcu lerfu morna". In Lojban one > would say "lu larcu lerfu morna li'u veljvo fo zo larlermorna", since "vel-" > (which is the rafsi of "ve") switches x1 and x4. > > A rafsi is a combining form, also called a bound morpheme. "lar-" is a rafsi > of "larcu". > > A fu'ivla is a borrowed word. Often "fu'ivla" is used to refer to the Lojban > word forms used for borrowed words, even if the "word" being discussed (such > as "agbagba", one of several wordoids made out of a few different letters) is > meaningless. A word of fu'ivla form whose source is something other than a > foreign language is called a zi'evla, e.g. "vonpaso", which is from Lojban > number words. > > Pierre > -- > Don't buy a French car in Holland. 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