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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:13 AM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:

> la'o gy. Jonathan Jones .gy cu cusku di'e
>
>  Hey, I'm just telling you how it is. I'm not saying that {nu} should be
>> the default, it just happens to be that it IS.
>>
>
> No, it's not. You're wrong. Why can't you accept that even after several
> people have shown you that you're wrong? You're providing the beginners
> that this list is dedicated to with misinformation.
>
> {nu} is not the default, so it's *not* always right. You can't djuno a nu=
,
> nor can you zenba a nu.
>

As I said, I'm not saying that I agree with it, nor am I saying I think
it's correct. What I AM saying is that that is how it is, regardless of
whether it makes sense, regardless of what the definitions of the various
NU are, and regardless of whether it should be something else.

That said, I do happen to agree with you. That, however, is not my point.
This is not my opinion, it is the current state of the language. And I am
not the first nor the last to find things about this language that could -
or indeed, should- be changed for the better.


> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
> --
> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo je nai zo lejbo
>
> do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
>    .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
> ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
>    .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
> gi je s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
>    .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo da'i pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku
>
>
> .
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>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:13 AM, selpa&#39;i <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m3o@plasmatix.com" target=3D"_blank">m3=
o@plasmatix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
la&#39;o gy. Jonathan Jones .gy cu cusku di&#39;e<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hey, I&#39;m just telling you how it is. I&#39;m not saying that {nu} shoul=
d be<br>
the default, it just happens to be that it IS.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
No, it&#39;s not. You&#39;re wrong. Why can&#39;t you accept that even afte=
r several people have shown you that you&#39;re wrong? You&#39;re providing=
 the beginners that this list is dedicated to with misinformation.<br>

<br>
{nu} is not the default, so it&#39;s *not* always right. You can&#39;t djun=
o a nu, nor can you zenba a nu.<br></blockquote><div><br>As I said, I&#39;m=
 not saying that I agree with it, nor am I saying I think it&#39;s correct.=
 What I AM saying is that that is how it is, regardless of whether it makes=
 sense, regardless of what the definitions of the various NU are, and regar=
dless of whether it should be something else.<br>
<br>That said, I do happen to agree with you. That, however, is not my poin=
t. This is not my opinion, it is the current state of the language. And I a=
m not the first nor the last to find things about this language that could =
- or indeed, should- be changed for the better.<br>
=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8888=
88"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo je nai zo lejbo<br>
<br>
do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC&#39;u<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i do c=C3=A0tlu ki&#39;u<br>
ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi<br>
gi je s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0.i ta=E1=BB=8B bo da&#39;i pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku<br>
<br>
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.</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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