Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:33122) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TgHCx-0002zu-LN; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:33 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q1sf4030870ggm.16 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=alnF3XEpz1wGFEh9TXqEPdsIEUvHQ80FMeED6RNPOLk=; b=Lrg0TVBZmP9fmveKQCTo+dEar9G72sX4kAsgiqSzyPqBqOx4h5ZUKlqEAI+m3wLmer pB3Ia4zuRl9Z9kOi8EOrN3NnWw7cWQslcTjLbkGpzc1SM/WVELDxVUtdz8OTBPLTVaOM QakAYtuc46ePyzSOQ4e7eSiSSdISrNDzXaWFlVKlpQcFMVTbJ7uY0sscjntHKjP1501h yX0KrPW2/36BLJztOewUAr/EN5lwMeswzlHN4oSng+OMn0udzP1wpdFQ9ATBuyHUop7s 9fz5cVyCNRuGYQw2tXWSK5Fdjx9uV7kcC1ZUxcN0LoG2KGywg69s++o6QO2Q4OoPI38q 0lsA== Received: by 10.50.108.200 with SMTP id hm8mr837007igb.10.1354722491901; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.37.141 with SMTP id y13ls3481826igj.4.canary; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.85.67 with SMTP id an3mr12924435icc.12.1354722490829; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.85.67 with SMTP id an3mr12924434icc.12.1354722490820; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com. [209.68.5.17]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id hw1si346638igc.3.2012.12.05.07.48.10; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.17 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.17; Received: (qmail 30166 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2012 15:48:09 -0000 Received: from 93.220.68.105 (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (93.220.68.105) by relay03.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2012 15:48:09 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 93.220.68.105 Message-ID: <50BF6CBB.8010903@plasmatix.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:48:11 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Why no "about" brivla? References: <33272af0-7522-44d7-a040-e451bf851595@googlegroups.com> <96205a36-c08f-4ebe-877e-112c22a5aefc@googlegroups.com> <5c52564a-f822-49b1-b8c9-745f53613b34@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <50BF56A6.2010105@plasmatix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.17 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la Jonathan Jones cu cusku di'e > As I said, I'm not saying that I agree with it, nor am I saying I think > it's correct. What I AM saying is that that is how it is, regardless of > whether it makes sense, regardless of what the definitions of the > various NU are, and regardless of whether it should be something else. > > That said, I do happen to agree with you. That, however, is not my > point. This is not my opinion, it is the current state of the language. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that it's the current state of=20 the language? What are you basing this claim on? mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo je nai zo lejbo do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi gi je s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo da'i pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku . . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.