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Jonathan Jones wrote:
> The stated primary purpose of Lojban is to be a language which both
> humans and computers can understand, so that one can speak to both using
> the same language (rather than for example, English with humans and C++
> with computers), so, there's that.

Actually, that is NOT the primary purpose, but one possible secondary 
purpose.  From the intro brochure (largely unchanged for 25 years):


> Why was Lojban developed?
>
> Lojban was originally designed for the purpose of supporting research
> on a concept known as the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: "the structure of a
> language constrains the thinking of people using that language".
> Lojban allows the full expressive capability of a natural language,
> but differs in structure from other languages in major ways. This
> allows its use as a test vehicle for scientists studying the
> relationships between language, thought, and culture.
 >
 >
 >Other uses for Lojban
>
> Lojban was designed as a human language, and not as a computer
> language. It is therefore intended for use in conversation, reading,
> writing, and thinking. However, since Lojban can be processed by a
> computer much more easily than can a natural language, Lojban-based
> computer applications are a natural expectation. Due to its
> unambiguous grammar and simple structure, it can be easily parsed by
> computers, making it possible for Lojban to be used in the future for
> computer-human interaction, and perhaps conversation. Lojban's
> predicate structure is similar to AI, suggesting it as a powerful
> tool in AI processing, especially in the storing and processing of
> data about the world and people's conceptions of it. Linguists are
> interested in Lojban's potential as an intermediate language in
> computer-aided translation of natural languages. Other people are
> interested in Lojban as an international language.


lojbab

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President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

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