Received: from mail-ia0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:60398) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti7Jz-0003S6-9I; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:25 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f189.google.com with SMTP id b35sf2372356iac.16 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JTjnKw5sPjWAQ2/XU7K8rj/D1P/Ee0ShSnvQHDLj+uQ=; b=LVHgvL7u42n8GU1i18UGA1fdZmmB1UIHWOi+4KJIiVfGln27x3BRJHJXXcUA0foV5U L/XNN4s/0YVMVU7jizBhTv4pWN7yUPZ6jbDJ/dNcYOFtnGW01eZLc2kbRNAp+tAV4iYC gbv+cqc0AqtJbrV3TTFGtv66n0aHJi5IU0VQL+RSiAZa93BOW3tsOTXfxofnzUbAvQVa XVJocBEki0zyel4rGA1+IEQhHnXyd7hcebr2K8/j1RSVme9NK8I01xHvXzCin/rSs1sf JU8m8ypGmdSA/zs12qXWR9D5UBP4kWcSg50pjmdpoMOaNYzA6TFCGqVgoXvB0FUugHrr lXAA== Received: by 10.49.48.41 with SMTP id i9mr3326873qen.36.1355161148093; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.84 with SMTP id 20ls2061783qec.58.gmail; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.158.105 with SMTP id p69mr10258106yhk.10.1355161146749; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.158.105 with SMTP id p69mr10258104yhk.10.1355161146739; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s78si1789884yhh.3.2012.12.10.09.39.06; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53E21E154 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:39:05 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=2Dbeginners=5D_Ebauche_=E0_propose_de_Galil=E9?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e=2FMicro=2Dstub_about_Galileo_Galilei?= Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: <2802435.XvCs7thJ1p@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <71e279a0-fbe2-4e0c-a630-ba5eb98928f1@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:05:42 .arpis. wrote: > The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you need a > word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which); for > example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}. I saw "la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi.", in which "zoi" is used correctly, as the terminator. "la'o" and "zoi" are in the same selma'o' and it's not uncommon to use "zoi" as the terminator. The dates, though, I'd write the other way around, if they're all numbers. Numbers connected with "pi'e" should be ordered most significant first, if one is more significant than another; also this agrees with the ISO format. ISO 8601 was apparently issued shortly after the fork of Lojban, so I don't blame Bob or John for not knowing about it; but it's now in common use on international Web pages, including Wikipedia. The order is day-month-year when the month is spelled out: le 8moi be le .ianvari be le 1642moi. The veldetri should be given; the change from Julian to Gregorian started during his lifetime. See https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/latmo_veldetri . "mivcitri" needs an interfix. I'd leave the apostrophes out of his name. At first I thought you meant Galilee in Israel (the end of the subject line didn't appear until I clicked on the message). :) Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.