Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:61951) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tjr3J-0006iE-Uw; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:22 -0800 Received: by mail-ee0-f61.google.com with SMTP id e51sf1043306eek.16 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=/mxbGMTvRe7v7Z6VNHH3ztWP6ldXkdOYHS5XtBrlfYM=; b=UrbPXsBnG8G6HP+mAFyTloxvSrloKH1/kAW+wtxOceDT4UcOsALJU7TRvz94/UryV4 rKndxZeq5KHB2mqda3IGOOdUDU4a3hPNhoM6ANR5pXnUE5nDyuzTFYiaTJHNXAzRSkD3 HrpjY9hiPBLEcBgvSD7u+Tmczp6NmUWKxOT9xm79ynGN9MFVv/d3DtdCqdG/rFOg0Jo5 dPf6usSe3OR+qZCJVjKTGnTE3WnRcodJv8sUV2y/FbL4iusQpiOPCvDz90jsRi+JVZdz Tg75EkCDfoCrbfXPnLRhK27edeSb2GCGOTuFUM3KbSciMufOKj7rCLjMR/guv2seaCuz 8HaQ== Received: by 10.180.24.3 with SMTP id q3mr587106wif.4.1355575266066; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.73.81 with SMTP id j17ls561717wiv.44.gmail; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.0.196 with SMTP id 44mr8277597eeb.6.1355575264578; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.0.196 with SMTP id 44mr8277596eeb.6.1355575264569; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9si1884313eeo.1.2012.12.15.04.41.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbaab7b.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.171.123]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B9E0A865013 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:41:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:41:04 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] mi surla tu'a lomi iaxti rai lonu jdini ponse Message-ID: <20121215124104.GC683@samsa.fritz.box> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:54:01AM -0400, Betsemes wrote: > mi surla tu'a lomi iaxti rai lonu jdini ponse > > How would you translate this to English? Sorry for not providing the > meaning that I wanted to convey. Right now, I just want to know > whether or not I did it correctly without anyone telling me the > correct way. Sorry for answering, I suppose you might even know more about Lojban than I do at the moment. {.u'i} "I relax by doing something with my yacht and this something involves the superlative to own something in a money-way" Sounds weird to me, but it seems few people actually use "rai" and it's hard for me to understand what {rai} should mean at all. For {selrai} one can say "and the predicate is superlative in property ...", but {rai} really requires the actual thing that is superlative. Were you looking for {kargu} in this last part? Although I know la selpa'i et al. will probably fire back at me, given that you probably talk about a very specific ship and given that it's not really clear what really is a {iaxti} and what is not _categorically_ (despite ship, see the corresponding thread), you might want to use {lemi iaxti} instead of {lo}. mu'o mi'e la .van. --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDMb98ACgkQMBKLZs4+wjx7RwCgkmF58ILWI4UuiLX8meFT5YC4 4IwAnjd5uKGr/1VAJeIrVqZJ0Gejf2Mh =a+HZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe--